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Brother None
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:19 Post subject: Fallout 3: not going AO |
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In this thread on the BGS forum, Matt Grandstaff explains a bit about Fallout 3's intended rating:As with Oblivion, when we set out a to release a game, we're looking to put out the game we want to put out. We let the ESRB make the decisions on what it should be rated.
That said, no, we probably wouldn't be going for the AO crowd Pete Hines has noted before that they intend to go M.
Link: thread on BGS forum.
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:25 Post subject: |
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well Fallout was M rated...
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:30 Post subject: |
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Yip, it's hardly a shocker. AO is not really a rating that's viable or useful for any game.
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taxacaria
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They're going to make a teenie game to get a bigger audience, and when the ESRB says T, they'll say "Good news! We intended to make an M game, but ESRB has been generous."
And for the same reason the official Fallout 3 forum is 13+.
To develope an AO game no next gen is required - the target audience has pcs usually. So no surprise.
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I don't really think anyone expected an AO rating. An M rating is all I personally ever expected. I can totally understand not wanting to get an AO rating. That would pretty much mean instant sales death.
As for the teen rating comment above, I highly doubt we'll see that. I think that's just unfounded pessimism. One would have to try very hard to not get an M rating in a Fallout game. The setting/theme almost demands it even. |
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:56 Post subject: |
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| Lexx wrote: |
| I am no expert in the rating things of other lands.. so... what does AO mean? Bad, really bad or damn, this is like shooting teletubbies? |
Adult Only. Pretty rare. Animated sex scenes, rape, terrorism, that kind of thing. Pretty rare, though I'm always unsure of what the current trend in ESBR is, and they might even slap child killing with an AO these days.
Anyway, from Wikipedia:
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M — Mature: Contains content that may be suitable for ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language. Many retailers (such as Wal-Mart) have a policy of not selling games with this rating to minors without parental presence and approval. Examples of games with this rating are the Half-Life series, the Halo series, Jaws Unleashed, Dead or Alive 4, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake4, Silent Hill, Doom, Mortal Kombat, Grand Theft Auto Series, Resident Evil, System Shock 2, God of War,Killzone Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and the Rainbow Six series.
AO — Adults Only: Contains content that is suitable only for adults. Titles in this category may include prolonged scenes of intense violence and/or graphic sexual content and nudity. As of 2006, there are 23 AO-rated products, most of which are available on Windows and Apple Macintosh computers, as well as the Philips CD-i. The AO rating is a subject of heated controversy because of the extreme restrictions it puts on game sales. Notably, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas was re-rated AO due to the release of the "Hot Coffee" mod.
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AO *Giggles with glee*
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Hurray for bloody mess! ?
oh wait, no.... 
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 14:53 Post subject: |
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I like the game rating M because it makes it more noticable and will sell more. It's like the Parental Advisary label they put on music CDs. CDs that have that label usually sell better than the ones that dont . I'm sure the same is for Games.
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 15:14 Post subject: |
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I guess we couldn't expect anything else. I like that they don't think about the rating that much.. Make the game perfecto. pretty important factor
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| It's like the Parental Advisary label they put on music CDs. CDs that have that label usually sell better than the ones that dont. |
What?! People buys music because of that? Reference, please! add: Yes I know some might.
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| monsharen wrote: |
What?! People buys music because of that? Reference, please! add: Yes I know some might. |
I bought Warrant's Chery Pie for that reason alone I never really liked Pop Metal.
And go to any music store and find an album that has a parental advisory label verson and a radio edit version... Count the number of each and you will find that there are more radio versions and those will have dust on them more often than not. Don't need any references its common sense but I'll look for you.
EDIT: Many bands or artists sometimes will write a song with loads of cusswords or a lot of sex or violence just to get the label slapped on their record because it makes people pick up the record and look at it. Then they buy it to see why it has the label. American comercialism at its best.
Reference and citation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_Advisory[/url]
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I bought Warrant's Chery Pie for that reason alone I never really liked Pop Metal. |
That came out in the late 80's though. There is a world of difference.
The culture of music in America was totally different at the time, because groups were trying to get music banned in some stores and that's when we first began putting labels on them.
So yeah, at the time they were first put on, some kids at the time used to buy the labeled stuff just to "stick it to the man". But, like with anything, we've just gotten used to having warnings on explicit lyric albums and the shock value isn't there anymore.
Its not that way anymore and, really, it never was for all that long.
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 19:24 Post subject: |
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they could make a pc only AO version 8)
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 21:15 Post subject: |
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| Or a mod that made the game AO. |
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:46 Post subject: |
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| Unkillable Cat wrote: |
| Or a mod that made the game AO. |
Nude patches for teh win!
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Nude patch is probably gonna happen... Too close for people to not exploit it, making Beth regret ever taking the game in a closer perspective than third person...  |
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