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    Would you have liked Fallout 3 if . . .

    Hello everyone, I'm a guy who talked shit to you about you apparantly hating Fallout 3. That was pointless. Now onto the thread!

    I had a thought lately about the end fight in F3, what if the robot didn't work/they didn't have it? In short, what if the end fight wasn't: bamwhamgoodguyswin? And in the fight, the enclave has the advantage, making it impossible to win (or almost). And It's not just the epic end battle, but the culmination of the wastelander's struggles.

    Then the enclave win and fuck shit up even more.

    And the rest of the game was still about making you think you're the hero who will save the day. It might be a little anti-climactic but I just thought it have been less cliche and more interresting.
    Would you have liked that? And ofcourse I'm ignoring Broken Steel here.

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    I can summarize every post to follow with, "No"
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    Quote Originally Posted by korindabar
    I can summarize every post to follow with, "No"
    Hmm, maybe I shouldn't have said: Would you have liked it but said would you have liked it more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir
    Quote Originally Posted by korindabar
    I can summarize every post to follow with, "No"
    Hmm, maybe I shouldn't have said: Would you have liked it but said would you have liked it more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by korindabar
    I can summarize every post to follow with, "No"
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir
    And the rest of the game was still about making you think you're the hero who will save the day. It might be a little anti-climactic but I just thought it have been less cliche and more interresting.
    This in itself would have made it a tad better as the irony of it would show an interesting writing decision instead of bamwhamgoodguyswin.
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    the problem isnt so much of the end fight (which feelt in my eyes better then hoover dam in Vegas).

    The writting my friend. THe way how quests start and end in F3. That is just crap. The use of skills as well (you will very easily become god). So even if the the enclave would have won. It probably would not have made a better game.

    Now if you asked "Would you have liked Fallout 3 more with skilled writers".

    That is definitely a yes

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    I think that F3 would have been vastly superior without any Enclave or contrived Super Mutants, I really had little problems with the Brotherhood being their and Lyon's apifiny that the Brotherhood might be a tad isolationist isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

    Oh and better writing:

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    Would you have liked that?
    It would have certainly been a better eding but it wouldn't have been enough to make it a better game.
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    Re: Would you have liked Fallout 3 if . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir
    Hello everyone(...)
    I may have given Bethsoft a bit more respect if things had played out as you describe and they hadn't already shat all over their own credibility via the rest of the game's story and dialogue. And I really don't mean that to be provocative. I have nothing against Bethesda, only their end product. Where they do well, I recognize that they have. And FO3 wasn't a complete pile of shit, obviously, or the sales figures would've reflected it.

    As others here have said, though, there's no one change that could've made the whole game better in my eyes, short of maybe replacing whoever had final say in whether the game was good enough to go gold. At the end, you could've woken up in Vault 13 going "My God, what a horrible dream" and then immediately been given the overseer's original shpiel from FO1 about finding the water chip, and I wouldn't have been any happier about the game. It was flawed on too many levels.

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    Re: Would you have liked Fallout 3 if . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir
    Hello everyone(...)
    I may have given Bethsoft a bit more respect if things had played out as you describe and they hadn't already shat all over their own credibility via the rest of the game's story and dialogue. And I really don't mean that to be provocative. I have nothing against Bethesda, only their end product. Where they do well, I recognize that they have. And FO3 wasn't a complete pile of shit, obviously, or the sales figures would've reflected it.

    As others here have said, though, there's no one change that could've made the whole game better in my eyes, short of maybe replacing whoever had final say in whether the game was good enough to go gold. At the end, you could've woken up in Vault 13 going "My God, what a horrible dream" and then immediately been given the overseer's original shpiel from FO1 about finding the water chip, and I wouldn't have been any happier about the game. It was flawed on too many levels.
    That would have been a brilliant twist ending though. Finding out the whole game was a dream, and that you're actually the Vault Dweller from Fallout.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Enclave 86
    I think that F3 would have been vastly superior without any Enclave or contrived Super Mutants, I really had little problems with the Brotherhood being their and Lyon's apifiny that the Brotherhood might be a tad isolationist isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

    Oh and better writing:

    "Looking for my Dad, middle-aged guy have you seen him?"
    You had little problems with the BoS but didn't like the Enclave? I find that a bit strange. I find the addition of the Enclave not innapropriate. I mean, the Enclave have alot of resources, and time to prepare pre-war. I find it more inconceivable that they had JUST the oilrig base. Than that and the DC base. And it's near the capital, which makes sense.

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    They also had Navarro, and if New Vegas is correct, troops in Chicago too.
    At the end of the day, after the blood's been spilled and the pay's changed hands, I drift away into the wastes to seek my fortune elsewhere.

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    I would have liked it if:
    Bethesda could write
    They didn't rape the cannon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah-Teen
    They didn't rape the cannon
    Which particular weapon are we talking about here? I don't recall any large howitzers being destroyed in Fallout 3...

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    They raped the combat shotgun, which is now an ugly piece of whatever. Also other weapons have been reimagined in an unimaginative way, like the 10mm pistol or the 10mm smg, etc.

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    @mjolnir: no

    And the laserrifle, and the plasmadildo and... but i agree, the cannon that got raped the most was that poor shotgun. How very, very stupid that design is....

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    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir
    You had little problems with the BoS but didn't like the Enclave? I find that a bit strange. I find the addition of the Enclave not innapropriate. I mean, the Enclave have alot of resources, and time to prepare pre-war. I find it more inconceivable that they had JUST the oilrig base. Than that and the DC base. And it's near the capital, which makes sense.
    Why is it inconceivable? Richardson states as much regardless that the Enclave consists of the ENCLAVE and Navarro. As for it being the capital... so? The Enclave decided to make the ENCLAVE Oil Rig there base of operations and it's on the complete opposite side of America; old-tymy nostalgia isn't sufficient reason for crossing over 1000 miles to get to Raven Rock - which has been established as empty until people from Navarro mass-migrated their under Eden's orders.

    The Enclave was a shadow government, ie, it was as small as possible for the sake of efficiency and secrecy; them having enough people to create mulitple self-sustaining, genetically diverse locations doesn't make sense to me. But let's not derail this topic.

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    The East Coast is a more desolate part of the states, seems like a good place for any faction to start over and regain their strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quagmire69
    The East Coast is a more desolate part of the states, seems like a good place for any faction to start over and regain their strength.
    The East coast is more desolate than a desert? Whaaaaaaa?


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