Did Myron invent jet?

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Bethesdaretconman, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. Bethesdaretconman

    Bethesdaretconman First time out of the vault

    Nov 28, 2018
    I doubt he didn't but it's not entirely implausible to think that he didn't. Completely removing Bethesda from your mind you can still gather some evidence he could be lying. The chosen one has a dialogue option to call out his story on how he invented jet to be bullshit. I still doubt he didn't invent it though because what would be the point in testing on all those slaves if that's not how it works? I don't know. How do you personally reason that he did or did not invent jet?
  2. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    He has a superiority complex. He would never lie about something he didn't do, it would be beneath him.

    EDIT: Also, if he had found a formula to make Jet, or got it from someone else. He would be the first to let you know about how someone made Jet, but he improved it several times over and made it way better, because he is superior to the creators. It's just the kind of person Myron is.
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  3. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
  4. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    Next time u will ask if the master really created the unity, because some later title will disregard canon ?
  5. NMLevesque

    NMLevesque Commie Ghost

    Jul 2, 2016
    I recall discussing this with someone who didn't think there were any serious retcons in the series. Basically they thought that aromatic amphetamines were being mass produced via cow feces.

    I told them no, I'm pretty sure they had pharmaceutical grade speed and everything. And in the lore: accidentally making psychoactive meat was bad for business. As in, not something used to manufacture drugs. Food is expensive to make, beef in particular. The economics don't make any sense.

    Plus, the manure from feeding said aforementioned tainted beef to cows was rather fatal to humans, as indicated by Myron's experiments. He states that it was "not on purpose" and was motivated to avoid killing them because "slaves are expensive", and thus it made the Mordinos mad.

    Plus, why and how in the hell would the Mordinos get their hands on the exact same make and model of inhaler...which had no Jet in it...and coincidentally put Jet which they coincidentally called Jet into it? And what's the reason for it not being in the first title? Obviously it was always intended to be a wasteland invention.
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  6. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    My view is Myron invented Jet but it's not substantially different from something Pre-War.

    Basically, it's Blue Meth versus meth.

    Hell, Jet may actually be Meth.

    So, it's an error but it's an easily retconned error.

    Jet is popular post-Great War and has spread across the country so they call Pre-War meth Jet as well.
  7. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    It is also not there in Tactics and Bos. And it is a major plotpoint in the game. It isn't like they retconned the price of gecko pelts.
  8. Millim

    Millim The Big Straight Orderite

    Oct 13, 2010
    Yes he did invent Jet.

    I'm willing to let F3 off with its Jet use as a group of traders may have brought it over to the CW.

    But it being a pre-war invention?
    No, Fallout 4 really fucks up the series canon.

    At this point, it's easier to just have a head canon.
  9. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 26, 2007
    Are you willing to let them off the hook for having Jet cannisters be found in sealed pre-war containers?
  10. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    I feel like they should have just had it be Buffout.

    Not all things need a lore patch.

    Some are just mistakes.

    Or they could have just invented a new drug. "Jolt", "Super", "Kick."