Mr.Black Dude (A new playable critter for Fallout 2)

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by .Pixote., Oct 6, 2010.

  1. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Sep 14, 2009
    This thread will focus on a new player character for Fallout 2 - Mr.Black Dude.

    This will be an addition to Mash's excellent "PC Appearance Mod". The new critter will be based on the "Bald Dude Mod", except the critter will have their skin tone darkened to be comparable to the original black Vault critter in Fallout 1. The reason behind a bald black critter is because it will be easier and faster to complete (in the long run), and I think he will look pretty cool. Every frame in the bald mod will be converted (50,000+), to simplify the process I have built an 'action' in Photoshop that will change the skin tone of the critter. This can not be batched, so each and every frame will need to be done one at a time. I have made an AVI that demonstrates what will be involved, see below.

    I'm hoping to put a team together, people who are willing to commit to the project and see it through. So sign up if your interested. (This project wont start for a while, because I need to finish some other Fallout work). :mrgreen:


    Various skin tones examples - No:2 is the tone we will build.




    Original Fallout 1 Black critter - and Bald version.

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    Potential character screen -



    Photoshop demonstration -

     
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  2. Ghouly89

    Ghouly89 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jul 14, 2010
    Re: Mr.Blackie (A new playable critter for Fallout 2)

    :eyebrow: :Ahem:

    :wink:

    Indeed; I won't be ready to start helping just yet, but I will soon enough.... 8-)
     
  3. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Sep 14, 2009
    OK Ghouly your the man... :wink:
     
  4. lisac2k

    lisac2k Vault Senior Citizen
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    Oct 26, 2004
    Looking forward to this!

    Too bad Mr. Blackie made by brother_soifran and me (anyone else? can't remember) was never finished. If you need any of the stuff that is finished thus far, just let me know.

    Since you want to start from Mr. Baldie, which may be even better than we did with the default male character, you may want to avoid making something similar to the BIS black guy in metal armor, because it looks too 'red-ish'.

    And I vote for the 2nd variant as well, although none of the presented ones are red-ish, hence rendering all of them suitable for the game (it's just the 2nd one looks best).
     
  5. pelicano

    pelicano It Wandered In From the Wastes
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    Jun 14, 2008
    Re: Mr.Blackie (A new playable critter for Fallout 2)

    Heh, really? Couldn't be more like the black dude in the fallout 2 intro? It wouldn't look so.. dunno.. funnily racist?

    Anyway, good luck with the project. This could be a great addition to the game.
     
  6. SkuLL

    SkuLL Chad McRealman Orderite

    Sep 6, 2009
    Re: Mr.Blackie (A new playable critter for Fallout 2)

    :rofl:

    Please don't.
     
  7. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Sep 14, 2009
    No offense intended...I will make the skin tone closer to the guy in the intro.



    This looks a lot better.

     
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  8. SkuLL

    SkuLL Chad McRealman Orderite

    Sep 6, 2009
    Indeed, that is nice!

    If you give me the values you're using for the darkening, I could help out as well. Check out my sexy black boxer:

    ... ... ...

    I do it slightly differently though:
    1) Action to select blue
    2) Action to select inverse
    3) Manually use the Brush tool to darken desired areas
    4) Action to Save, Overwrite & Close

    I find the using the brush with specific colour settings is a bit faster and easier than the lasso tool.
     
  9. Ghouly89

    Ghouly89 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jul 14, 2010
    I actually liked this one... I bet you anything the original Fallout devs would have done it that way... :wiggle: (no racism intended at all, seriously :wink: ) It just has that Fallout 2 look about it
     
  10. Jotisz

    Jotisz Mildly Dipped

    Aug 28, 2007
    Looks good though I would have preferred if the black guy wouldn't be bald but I like the overall concept of this. Though I can't really help you guys but I'm sure I can some frms if you want.
     
  11. lisac2k

    lisac2k Vault Senior Citizen
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    Oct 26, 2004
    You mean something like this? It has vault suit and combat armor animations finished, as well as some other armors started/WIP. I should upload everything to wikia once I get back home, it's someplace on my home-PC HDD.
     
  12. Dux

    Dux First time out of the vault

    Feb 3, 2009
    I would prefer that one over the bald blackie, but I realize that it's less of a pain in the ass to make the bald one. Let's just hope one day we will have both options 8-)
     
  13. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Sep 14, 2009
    lisac2k pass me your files, I'll have a look and maybe we will just finish what you and brother_soifran started. What method did you use to build this critter. Having two versions of Mr. Blackie would be nice, but that would be a long term project...I think the people would generally prefer a new female PC first.

    EDIT: I put together a quick build of Mr.Blackie, a basic color test.

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  14. PastaMasta

    PastaMasta Mildly Dipped

    Sep 25, 2008
    I updated el blacko and gave him a neat little soul patch.



    I tweaked his head. ;)
     
  15. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
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    Apr 24, 2005
    Both posts above me are looking good. :P
     
  16. SkuLL

    SkuLL Chad McRealman Orderite

    Sep 6, 2009
    Soul patch = :ok:
     
  17. Jotisz

    Jotisz Mildly Dipped

    Aug 28, 2007
    I changed my mind the bald black dude would look awesome too especially with the new screen PastaMasta made. Anyway for one or two frm I can help you guys out just drop me the setting you use for the critter process.
     
  18. memetics

    memetics ☢ Mysterious Stranger ☢

    Jan 2, 2009
    Great ideas! Dunno tho, somehow the title "Mr. Blackie" just rings "racist" to me; maybe it's just me, but I can't think of a non-offensive context where I've ever heard "blackie" applied to a person. Maybe "Black Dude" or "Mr. Cool" or "Mr. Samuel L. Jackson"? heh ...

    The blackface image also caught me off guard as a quintessentially racist image (it's just a cultural heratige we have no control over; sorry). The revised vault guy pic is much better! Looks cool and fits the theme. (And I think it's definitely what the devs might have done - definitely not the blackface one though.)

    just some thoughts, fwiw. ...

    -m
     
  19. Goweigus

    Goweigus Mildly Dipped

    Jan 18, 2007
    Robert Downey Jr. was nominated for best supporting actor in 2009 for blackface so I don't see why an obscure (for general society) Fallout 2 mod can't get away with it! ;)
     
  20. Ghouly89

    Ghouly89 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jul 14, 2010
    In every context I've ever heard the term "blackie", it was for a lulzy effect, as in comedy sketches and whatnot. Pixote I daresay if the farthest thing from racist, as well as I.

    In fact, as many people who grew up in the 1960's - 1970's would know, the term "Blacks" was widely used to refer to African people. It has historical background as a common name for the general group of African Americans living in America after the civil rights movements going on in the 50's.

    Now, "Mr. Blackie", in this context, is just the 'codename' for this critter project, just like "Mr. Baldie". See the similarities? It's purely naming conventions here.

    Now, about the critter project, I would indeed like to see a bald, black hero done, as well as the original critter by the Fallout devs, whom has hair. :mrgreen: