Sequels that are at least debatbly better than their predecessors? (All genres and mediums)

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by R.Graves, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Not gonna go into detail. It's 2:42 am so all you get is a discussion starter list.

    Evil Dead II: Dead By Dawn

    Aliens

    Terminator 2: Judgement day

    Clerks II

    Rocky II

    lethal Weapon 2

    Fallout: New Vegas

    John Wick: Chapter 2

    Toy Story 2

    Mad Max: Fury Road

    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

    Hatchet II (personally I disagree with this one but it's the fan favorite so... It deserves to be mentioned)

    Thought I had more to post but hey this gives you guys more to bring up.
     
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  2. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
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    :whatever:

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    nah bruh

    Dawn Of The Dead on the other hand, only reason for it is because it is allowed more time to delve into the personalities of the characters involved and goes into the psychological breakdown of feeling imprisoned in paradise. Also the societal commentary is more interesting despite being a bit hamfisted. Doesn't hurt that it has more and better gore either.
     
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  3. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    I used to think this, but now I think it's unfair to do so. Aliens is a good movie but it's not quite the same type of movie as the first and I think in terms of horror, music and atmosphere the first movie is superior.
     
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  4. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Yet it is fair to say, at least imo, that aliens is better at being an action film than alien is at being horror.
     
  5. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Expeditions: Viking is IMO better than Expeditions: Conquistador.

    They are very different experiences, but Viking is just so much more proffesional and well-written
     
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  6. TheAdversary

    TheAdversary Curious Incubus

    Jun 25, 2017
    Age of Empires 2 - I greatly enjoyed the gameplay and campaigns that were available for AoE2 much better than the first.

    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - The first Call of Duty since CoD1 that had a sense of structural stability. The campaign also didn't try any pretentious nonsense like CoD4 did, dancing between "War is hell," and War, FUCK YEAH," like it was bipolar. It's multiplayer also accepted the idea that CoD is a casual game, which is at the very least a sense of self-awareness.

    Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 - Definitely the best CoD game that has been released since CoD1. It's gameplay is almost on par with actual quality shooters with good level design, and it's final level actually represents what a final level would be in most games (a climactic event that features various challenges that were present in preceding levels). The story provides characters that players are able to empathize with and relate to and the narrative is actually relevant. The game also provides subtle details of a more sinister side of the military without having into dive into the depravity/brutality that previous Treyarch CoDs featured (wristwatches that can eavesdrop on distant conversations, drones that can steal identities, etc). The multiplayer was also pretty cool.

    Spyro 2 - Imma be honest here. Spyro the Dragon was as barebones as a 90s game can be. There's really not much Spyro 2 could do that wouldn't be considered an improvement.

    Tomb Raider 2: Starring Lara Croft -
    Definitely the most challenging Tomb Raider I've enjoyed. Never actually played TR3, so it's a little more debatable than my other choices for sequels.
     
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  7. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    AVP2, the game.

    Better than 1 in many areas IMO, including multiple aliens to play as.
     
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  8. Millim

    Millim What the fuck is this for a shit?!

    Oct 13, 2010
    Morrowind

    New Vegas

    Breath of Fire IV

    Final Fantasy VI

    Empire Strikes Back

    To name a few...
     
  9. mobucks

    mobucks moobs Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    Hamlet 2
     
  10. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Vault Fossil

    Nov 26, 2007
    Disciples 2
    Mad Max 2 (the films)
    Photoshop 5

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    This is good to hear; I haven't seen it yet.

    Totally different genres; practically unrelated except for the alien itself.

    Eeesh! [IMO HELL NO]; horribly miscast and the script—not even better than Thunderdome.
     
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  11. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    It also has yutani and continues ellen ripleys story. It's a legitimate sequel. Also this:
    Thunderdome may be my favorite. However fury road is far from miscast. Sam Jackson as mace windu is miscast. Also there's nothing wrong with the script and it has, indisputably, the best action sequences of the franchise.
     
  12. joevonzombie

    joevonzombie Buried alive in Golgotha

    Sep 28, 2015
    BioShock 2
     
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  13. Ben Soto

    Ben Soto Professional Salt Shaker

    Jul 7, 2014
    Fallout 4 is debatably better than Fallout 3, though it's not hard to be better than Fallout 3.
     
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  14. lolpop109

    lolpop109 Water Chip? Been There, Done That
    Modder

    Jul 14, 2016
    Creation club.

    I mean it's better than paid mods mk1 right ? .......
     
  15. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    If anything I'd argue it's worse.

    As it fucks modders even more.
     
  16. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Vault Fossil

    Nov 26, 2007
    I liked all three Mad Max films, including ThunderDome; but I didn't think the script was that great. I was shocked and amazed when I learned that Frank Thring played the Collector; Thring played Pontius Pilate in Ben Hur (1959).

    Tom Hardy was the miscast. Gibson made that character his own, and Hardy neither looked the part, nor played the attitude. IMO Tom Jane could have done better; but none of the cast could get around the awful script.
     
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  17. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I hated Fury Road, its not mad max, its typical modern cinematic trash.

    Mad Max is about the characters, not the action, the ending is supposed to be the big finale, not the whole god damned movie.

    The constant action diluted the impact, and ultimately if you watched the movie, you'd wonder if Max has a brain injury considering half of his lines are grunts, and the other half are less than a sentence.

    The movie also makes zero fucking sense, as his car was destroyed in 2, and it cannot be past 3 because he was getting old in 3.
     
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  18. TheAdversary

    TheAdversary Curious Incubus

    Jun 25, 2017


    Typical? Fury Road may not be the best of the Mad Max series, but to call it "typical modern cinematic trash," is grossly misunderstanding the cinematic medium as a whole. From the inverse action clichés, to the removal of frames in some of the more urgent action scenes, to the overt Hitchcockian influences that are prevalent in a majority of the film, Mad Max: Fury Road is anything BUT typical.
     
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  19. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
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    No, seriously, typical cinematic trash.

    "Bad guys are super incompetent evil people who you never get a chance to understand"

    "Good guys are totally good and are nothing bad at all despite it being the fucking wasteland"

    Remember when Max wasn't a white knighting piece of shit who barely spoke?

    Remember when he just wanted gasoline and pistol whipped anyone who pissed him off?

    I remember.
     
  20. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Furiosas clan are revealed to be straight up raiders towards the end of the film.

    He was never like that. He was reluctant to care but always helped in the end. Just like in fury road.
    He barely speaks in fury road. Also white knighting? Wow dude you've lost all credibility here. MAX HELPED WOMEN REEEEE
    They aren't incompetent they fail in the end but they're running a civilization.
    It's called a continuity problem almost all great sequels have them to some degree. To name a few: evil dead II, aliens, terminator 2....
    "Remember when max bareky spoke that was cool"
    "Mad max 4 sux cuz he barely speaks"
    :roll:
    What's wrong with the script? It's does what it's supposed to.
    He did a fine job playing a feral max.
    The story was serviceble, the villain looked awesome, the action was jaw dropping, and the stunts were all practical. Honestly what more could you want?
     
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