The Outer Worlds information overload

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by PlanHex, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Still Mildly Glowing

    Jun 7, 2008
    Jesus, I don't think I could play the same game that many times. I did one full run of New Vegas at around 250 hours, and that was all I could manage. But yeah, 30-40 hours is plenty for me. I can't afford to piss away that much time anymore. At this point, I probably have a backlog of like 20 RPGs to finish. I'll likely die before that happens.
     
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  2. Squadcar

    Squadcar A Smooth-Skin

    Jun 1, 2018
    That's how I feel. I'll never play a game as much as that anymore. That was high school and mind you a lot of my senior year. My senior year I had one class each semester at 800 and then on two days of the week I had college classes. So that's three days that I had most of the day off and no work til later and then two days where I got home two hours early still (sometimes no class at all even on those days). I had a LOT of free time. All my older friends were working, similar aged friends in school. I just sat at home and played games.

    Between a full-time job, a house, a girlfriend (who plays multiplayer games with me), etc. I can't sink hundreds into a game anymore.
     
  3. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010

    How the fuck did it take 17 hours to do everything in NV?
    Unless you were skipping all dialogue and using guides, I have a hard time believing you could cover all of vanilla, in detail, in that time.
     
  4. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    Pulled a Game Grumps.
    *skips all dialogue*
    “Ugh I hate this game it never tells me what I’m doing”
     
  5. Millim

    Millim What the fuck is this for a shit?!

    Oct 13, 2010
    Nah, first time I didn't do everything.
    I did a number of things, but not everything.

    I skipped over a huge chunk of the game by going with Yes Man and just saying "Yeah, these People were cool" to everyone.

    Since then, I tend to more with each play-through.
    Also bare in mind, there's some side quests I don't do on another Play-Through. The one where you just get eggs for that Woman in the underground Arena place for example is one I did once, I find that quest kinda boring and not worth the reward. It's not as interesting as say... the one with the Ghouls (I can't remember the names of these things... I'm way too fucking tired). A quest I do find tedious but feel rewarded every time I do it.

    And nah, I don't skip over dialogue in these games.
     
  6. Black Rose

    Black Rose More Human Than Human

    Dec 5, 2018
    https://www.pcgamer.com/obsidian-wi...p-using-the-outer-worlds-to-knock-fallout-76/

    I know there are people doing this, but I personally never thought that Obsidian was trying to bash on Bethesda or 76 (although the game does suck), and that the "original creators of Fallout" was just simply telling the truth. Maybe also some nostalgia and hope for fans of the originals.

    There will also be a V.A.T.S. type combat system. I think this could be a good thing, as long as you don't need to constantly use it.

    https://www.pcgamer.com/the-outer-worlds-will-feature-vats-like-slo-mo-combat-and-unique-companions/
     
  7. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Still Mildly Glowing

    Jun 7, 2008
    From what I saw in the demo, I thought it was a little unfair for the press to write the combat off as a VATS clone. Everything I've seen is just slow motion. New Fallout is hardly the only shooter to include a slow mo mechanic and VATS was complete auto-targeting, not just time dilation. I have to wonder if the only reason they're making that comparison so often is because of who the developers are.

    I haven't seen Obsidian themselves call it that, but maybe they did and I just missed it. Either way, they only look similar to me if you're someone who's only played a handful of games, and one of them happens to be Fallout 4...
     
  8. Risewild

    Risewild Half-way Through My Half-life
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Bullet time (player being able to slow down the time in action/shooting parts) has been a thing for 20 years now, and hundreds of games have it and had it before Fallout 3 V.A.T.S. (which as Jabberwok says, it's also an auto aim system)...
    PC Gamer doesn't know about Bullet Time? They have been in the "gaming" business since the early 90's and they don't know about Bullet Time? This is ridiculous. :facepalm:
     
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  9. Black Rose

    Black Rose More Human Than Human

    Dec 5, 2018
    I think @Jabberwok is right about only comparing the system to V.A.T.S. because of Obsidian's connection to FO. Either that, or the writers at the site have only played FO.

    Max Payne, RDR and F.E.A.R. have it too. But I'll admit I have never heard it called "Bullet time". LOL.
     
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  10. Risewild

    Risewild Half-way Through My Half-life
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    So does Requiem: Avenging Angel, and that was released in 1999.
     
  11. Black Rose

    Black Rose More Human Than Human

    Dec 5, 2018
    I was but a wee 9 year old, lol. But yeah, I don't know where people got the idea that slow mo combat was invented by Bethesda.
     
  12. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Still Mildly Glowing

    Jun 7, 2008
    Heck, even Mass Effect 2 and 3 had it, if you played as the soldier. That should still be new enough for a games journalist to remember.

    Bullet time is what it was actually called in Max Payne.
     
  13. Black Rose

    Black Rose More Human Than Human

    Dec 5, 2018
    I wanted to make a list and actually went searching, but I'm lazy. Never played Max Payne. Any good? I have it on my shelf, I think. Along with about 20 other games. I have played RDR (finally) though.

    And as a huge Mass Effect fan, I have just learned this. I never took the soldier option. I mostly took the engineer option. Will be sure to try it out!
     
  14. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Still Mildly Glowing

    Jun 7, 2008
    The first two Max Payne games are great, especially if you like cheesy noir, detective stories, or old John Woo action movies.
     
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  15. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    It took you this long to play RDR?! Shame, my dear. Shame.

    Better late than never tho
     
  16. Squadcar

    Squadcar A Smooth-Skin

    Jun 1, 2018
    I only played like 10 hours of Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare because someone let me borrow just that disc instead of the full game. Never played RDR or RDR2 or Red dead revolver. I'm sure they're solid but eh.

    I really hate that people kept saying TOW had something like VATS. It's not at all.
     
  17. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    Squad I thought you loved me
     
  18. Squadcar

    Squadcar A Smooth-Skin

    Jun 1, 2018
    I am very content with my Fallout cowboy game. I'll likely never try them. :hide:
     
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  19. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    You better hide filthy nobboy. I’m declaring WAAAGH!.
     
  20. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I played Red Dead Redeption 1, I got bored of it like 3 hours in, specially when I realized the "Activities" loop it had. Don't know why I didn't realize it was a Rockstar game or I wouldn't have bothered.
     
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