I figured it out, I had uninstalled the past fallout 2 and save games, but it had not removed the old mods. So it was just old vs new conflicting. thanks for the help though.
And also just fyi the gog version is prepatched, and sfall is included in the rp.
I installed clean, no save games, and no other mods. The main menu shows these versions:
F2 1.02.27.3
RP 2.1.2b
Sfall 2.12a
But when I start a new game, there is no rock, and it looks exactly the same as before I installed. I can change the resolution, and have the race editor in...