Comments on Profile Post by zegh8578

  1. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    Not counting accumulated funds through political/military action, but funds brought *into* the fight, from before.

    All I can think of is Osama bin Laden :S
    Oct 17, 2021
  2. TorontoReign
    TorontoReign
    Osama Bin Laden was created by the CIA so who knows what the real guy was like.
    Oct 17, 2021
  3. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    Every founding father, Maximilian Robespierre… pretty much every revolution is funded by the rich, yes.
    Oct 17, 2021
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  4. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    Well - funding is essential, you need it from somewhere, and industry typically holds the wealth - but I can't think of any sort of "renegade tycoon" who took their own money and used it to create their own revolution - essentially, burning up their own wealth
    Oct 18, 2021
  5. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    That happened with all of those examples, including some more I could mention. Literally every revolution in history has relied on the funding of rich men with a vested interest in regime change or war profiteering.
    Oct 18, 2021
  6. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    I think I'm distinguishing between participating in a revolution and orchestrating one. Which is why the impossibility occurs - the poorer you are, the more the grunt you will be, and that's what I'm looking for, the rifle-wielding billionaire. Some of them got close to the fray, but often cus the fray caught up with them.
    Oct 18, 2021
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  7. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    OK I get it now, I was confused, my mistake.

    Yeah, the actual number of revolutionary leaders who get their hands dirty is a small pool, unless you wanna count people like Napoleon during the French Revolution, or Oliver Cromwell; men who actually led armies.

    EDIT: Spartacus, Robert the Bruce, and William Wallace are also confirmed to have killed in their revolts.
    Oct 18, 2021
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  8. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    Right, now we're talking! I actually took some notes with a pencil :D Thanks! Forgot about Napoleon, dude was a true anomaly! I'm wanting to include such a character in a story I'm working on - the "impossible anomaly" - the billionaire who jumps into the fray (then loses, cus, you know, dude, wtf)
    Oct 18, 2021
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  9. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    It sounds like a cool character; I always liked that kind of historical figure. It’s unfortunate that so many who fund Revolution aren’t actually involved beyond that, I assume due to fear of being killed.
    Oct 19, 2021
  10. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    Yeah, sure, you gotta be cray-cray to take such a risk, and most likely fail face first :D Cool to think about though, to explore - very romantic! Like a dream of something that cannot be, but that should
    Oct 19, 2021
  11. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    I agree with that. It’s almost like the logical conclusion of “alea iacta est”: “the die is cast.” When you put yourself in that situation of both general and financier, the entire rebellion you’re leading hinges on you not dying.

    The proverbial Rubicon gets crossed just by you going into combat, and risking it all.
    Oct 19, 2021
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