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The community may not have one giant monolithic opinion regarding FO3, but there is no denying that this is the forum where people who passionately dislike FO3 hang out (the fact that you feel that people come here on 'holy missions' against you would support that). But it's really not at all...

Ok, so it's other people's fault and not yours. Either way you still end up with every thread in the news section degenerating into an angry slagging match. All I'm suggesting is that, if you are genuinely sick of it, you could probably avoid alot of it just by being more up front regarding what...

I was thinking more generally (my own experiences and other threads I've read). Perhaps I was a bit off topic in regards to this thread. I feel my point stands though. Maybe lots of people aren't actually trying to troll you, they just don't know what they're getting into when they join a...

I see. Well, maybe I was foolish to get involved. I'll keep my thoughts on the subject to myself in the future.

Do you mean that my posts seem overly contentious?

I never said anything of the sort. You've pretty much just paraphrased everything I've argued in this thread so far. If you agree with me, I don't know why you're swearing at me.

All these arguments around the notion that FO3 is supposed to be something other than what it is. Essentially your arguing that it has the wrong name, and that Bethesda marketed it wrongly. The logical conclusion is that if it had been called 'Laffout 3' and been described by Bethesda a 'First...

Subjectivity doesn't necessarily rule out consensus. Defining a game as good or bad is, at some level, a question of utility (good at what...?). The fact that most people have broadly similar expectations of what they want from a game (fun etc), as well as basic universals of human biology...

Your accusing me of relativism, when all I did was to distinguish between facts and (subjective)opinions. I never said that all claims can't be universal, merely that the terms 'good' and 'bad' are context dependent, subjective terms and not facts.

I would say an 'FPS' where you only race a rally car wasn't an FPS consequently, using FPS criteria to judge it would be... strange. As you say, FO3 isn't really an 'RPG' in the traditional sense, so judging it as a failed RPG misses the point. It's neither a bad RPG nor a bad FPS, it's...

Saying that a game lacks 'aspects of it's genre' just means is that the game is different to what came before (see my apples and oranges anaolgy...). Ok, maybe I misinterpreted your original comment as being more condescending that it really was. So the main quest in FO3 has a rubbish...

Lol. Moving thought your giant orange pic is, there's nothing about the existence of apples that prevents you from having oranges... Ok, I think the metaphor has now been stretched passed breaking point. The point was simply that FO3, existing and making people happy, doesn't worsen the other...

I didn't say it wasn't fallout-y (whatever that is), I said it was flawed, which it is: Crappy path-finding, crappy interface, unfinished quests, a trap skill but no traps etc and so on ad infinitum. The point is just that none of that stuff matters because of the things the game does right...

Or alternatively: Not everyone judged the game by the same criteria... so different people formed different opinions. You may not like the game, that's cool, but there's no need to assume that all the people who did like it only did so because they were duped by marketing. It could just be that...

It's possible. But he certainly didn't say so in that video.

I strongly suspect the indie scene will step in to plug that hole over the coming years. We're already seeing great games like Eschalon and Avernum, and with open source engines like FIFE in development I figure it's only a matter of time before we start seeing high quality, indie-made...

I'm really looking forward to FNV. It looks like it's shaping up to be the perfect compromise between everything I loved in FO1&2 and FO3 :D

Tim Cain seemed to be vaguely positive about FO3, interestingly.