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one observation i have to say about the whole "lacking of fallout feel" thingy is that i have read that the head developer for FO3 (and oblivion) apparantly didnt like the shtick in fallout at all... and since that is a huge part of the game (without it, the game is just another boring...

there was a mod for oblivion that narrowed your FOV by adding a dark filter over certain parts of the screen depending on the helmet you used...

wow... THATS what you got hung up on most? it was just a suggestion man... not everybody likes (or even knows of ) monty python (although i do and i do) so i thought we could have included something from a more modern humor... or maby you just want fallout 2 in 3D with nothing changed...

wow! this is just an amazing little work-around youve figured out here... i agree with previous posters that this should have been done by beth in the first place, but then again, beth is of the firm belief that "pictures speak louder than words, so we dont need words" wich is an idiotic...

why not just make it so that the normal random encounters are tougher? (ie, make the MC less godlike) :D

please stay out of this thread... if you think its falloutesque enough then fine, but dont come in here and rant on us who dont... let us do the changes we want without you whining about it (yes, you are the one whining in here)

well like i said... it wont be a complete re-write of the storyline im looking for... just adding some touches here and there to get the feel back if you know what i mean... it will still be a crappy RPG but at least we could make it a half-decent Fallout FPS...

with modding i mean... sure, we can never get it up to what we wanted it to be, but what kind of mods (keep in mind that im serious here, so only mods that are do-able) do wee need to get it up to a more acceptable standard? and i mean besides a complete re-write of the story and getting...

yeah i had it on preorder but i cancelled it (and told the company i preordered it from why i didnt want it)

im actually getting the PC version (if i get it at all) since you can mod it (hopefully) to be more in line with what i consider proper fallout...

"riding the wave" is always the safest (but not always most profitable) way to market something... so if zombie games is huge right now, make a zombie game for some guaranteed bucks... but if you make a different game you might make more money (if it becomes a hit) but it might also flopp...

i too play GTA IV and COD4... but i play them for what they are... shooters (gta more or less is). and shooters need flashy effects, constant action and lots of gore... but an RPG needs completely different things than a shooter. sure it can have the flashy effects and all that... but...

sorry... the 20+ was meant to include the 30+ and the same reasoning...

at least from a marketing standpoint... im one of those "true fans" of fallout 1 and 2. you know... the kind that probarbly wont buy this game (unless i find it in the bargain bin). we all heard it before... the reasons why i wouldnt by it i mean however, i must say that beth is...

nevermind... found it...

Could anyone provide an aternative d/l link for these patches since the ones here on NMA doesnt work (just puts me in waiting line and then sais my key is invalid or something). or maby if someone could send them to me via e-mail: josefporta_2@bredband.net im just getting into playing FO2...