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Well, a compare and contrast with Bethsoft's humour and the stuff in the original games might be interesting. But there's possibly too little info from bethsoft to make that comparison meaningful...

Good article, but I'd like to see some more analysis of the humour. You point out how Bethesda's examples miss the point, but then give a very vague description yourself which seems to imply you can't nail it down either. At least, that's how it came across to me. I can't work who they're...

So whaddya think of stuff so far, Brother None? I might have missed it, but your opinion hasn't been clear so far.

Oh, come on Havok. Gears of War sucked. It was just UT2004 with prettier graphics - i.e. a graphics engine with a game shoved on top. Oblivion was better than Gears of War. At least it wasn't a tech demo.

Hey, SA people. You pay to post on a forum. Lol.

Well, in all honesty, the combat and viewpoint are how I expected. Don't like 'em, but that's how it goes. I'm more concerned about the stuff Beth could potentially get right. The dialogue (it's like Oblivion's?!). The game-affecting quests. On that score, things look a bit better: As...

Im also concerned about the lack of eye/groin shots. Or perhaps I mean, the text that went along with it when you blinded someone. I'd love a return of the descriptive text, with the little jokes and stuff that was in it. The text wasn't there purely because they couldn't show you in the game...

Locked into a 19 yr old looking for his daddy is also a roleplaying concern. I don't want to be no emo kid. I'd like to think dialoguye would let us choose our own reasons for being out there - 'I dont give a shit about my father' 'I want to kill my father' etc. At least let us change the age.

Ok, the combat sounds iffy, the quests sound possibly they're getting the direction right, but my concern, my major concern, is that, uh, where's the fallout vibe? The 50s thing isn't just something you use in the intro. The game was never meant to be photorealistic, the mutants were meant to be...

"Game starts with your birth and your mother's death in a vault hospital. This is essentially the character customization part of the game. Your father hands you up to have your DNA analyzed and you get to pick out all your character traits. Your dad takes off his mask to reveal similar traits...

Bugger. So we get TB but it's kinda like, using a special move, and you can blast through the game completely ignoring it (implying combat could become unbalanced and easy if you choose to take a targeted shot). Meh.

if you're right, what we essentially get is turn based (not hybrid) and then we get kind of a limited real time whilst you wait for enemies to use their precision shots. Then once your points are charged back up, you go back into turnbased to do special shots or whatever. So it just keeps you...

But that also sounds like 'pausing' is optional and you can ignore the turn based aspect of it if you want.

Cheers for this, blogged it.

Well this is confusing. A bit disappointed about the skills being reduced to 14, and the idea of your character 'growing' ala Oblivion. Combat sounds wierd, but bethsoft might have come up with something completely new. It doesn't sound exactly like FOT, but seems to be headed that way. Hmm...

So, they want oblivion with guns. That's cool. JUST DON'T CALL IT FALLOUT. And like Brother None said, those guys could just wait for TES V, god knows they'll get it. With Fallout 3, Bethesda really should try stretching themselves - trying something different - and not just in backstory and...

Well you could look at it cynically - the teaser was a minor thing - a 'teaser' - to appease the fans. The big details will be the stuff that pisses us off, revealed in the mags, and we'll be blacklisted. meh, maybe i'm just in a cynical mood. We'll know soon enough.

You know, the more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. The big details being revealed in a print magazine. Fansites being kept in the dark. Ok, maybe using one of us as for a platform for a big announcement would have been too much, but something about this stinks.

Rather amusing. Still, I withhold judgment until we get some hard detail about the game - it's either nazi censorship, or sensible forum pruning.

Wasn't this supposed to be more than a straight shooter? Has that changed?