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It's probably the best ending available. However I think the point of Ulysseus' interrogation of our ideals is the player is supposed to think of something better, something new.

It's recent because the events are recent. House only woke 10 years prior to the game, and thats when the NCR got there.

Ah damn, that sounds so badass!!! I'm sad Bethesda is so petty they'd restrict an ending slide and some dialogue.

The dude def checked me out. It's a shame he feels the need to be closetted. Must be an East Coast thing.

Yeah, and thats ultimately the biggest problem in democracies, we have the same rights on paper but if you have money you're going to be able to leverage these rights COMPLETELY differently. For a real world example, did you know we didnt have free counsel for criminal cases until the 1960s? If...

Yeah that would be kind of a weird sell because if we're talking a new game.... calling that game Classic seems a bit presumptuous, but I get what you mean since its offering Classic gameplay. I don't think turn based combat became unpopular.... it just didnt grow. Like, there's not many 8...

Right. Which is why House is a bad option because there is 0 accountability.

I don't see voting as being irrelevant when its a tool used to remove congress people all the time? The average senator serves less than 2 terms. Granted, I don't blame you for taking 1 look at Patrick Leahy and think to yourself we basically have House serving in the Senate. And yeah, the...

I hope hypothetically, Sony would let John Gonzalez freelance as a writer if they were to make a new Fallout game. So much of what I looove about New Vegas is his writing/ideas.

Well its Fallout so if it didnt have propaganda it'd be a disservice.

Yeah I disagree with that read. There is certainly lots of problem with the NCR, but with those problems you are given tools to fix it. Like, America had these problems with oil barons and big corporations in the past, but it wasn't game over because there was a way to navigate through those...

Sure. But the issue is that there exists a remedy in the NCR and liberal democracies: you can vote people out. You remove that with House. Yeah, they're weak for sure. Not sure how much of it is NCR's incompetence versus you being in the outer rim of NCR's influence. I think your buck probably...

Oh man, that was messing with my brain because I was trying to think of when the hell Red Rocket was in any of the Interplay titles.

OK sure! I think thats valid, but at the same time, Metroid Prime is one of the best Metroids and Fallout New Vegas is incredible. I don't buy that the 3-d FPS genre shift is a big problem, outside of the necessary growing pains. I don't think this is the thread to relitigate that whole...

Very cool. I don't think Bethesda is into isometric games though. I am putting emphasis on soft. The whole point of a soft reboot is that it keeps stuff canon, but there's so much distance between the previous entries where completely new people have no problem jumping on board with the story...

OK.... thats fantastic for the Followers and people of Freeside, however my point was that the Followers have to get involved because of the terrible conditions under House's dominion.

OK..... that's not the point. The point was that seeing creatures as sprites in an isometric game in the 90s is going to be different than seeing them in fully realized 3-d in a first person perspective in the late aughts. I think that is a meritorious reason to bring back creatures from...

Sure. The DNA. FO1 and FO2 is there. But its divorced in that it takes place thousands of miles away. Harold is like the only character from 2 thats in there, and its not crucial to the plot. Thats consistent with how soft reboots work. It takes place in the same universe, same contininity, but...

Was 2 written by someone else? I know its notorious for the tone being COMPLETELY different.

idk man, the way 3 resets a status quo in a brand new engine and replays thsoe hits, that sounds like soft reboot to me. curious what standard it doesnt meet. I think the game gives an adequate job at most of those things....except BoS. But Lyon's brotherhood is dramatically different than...