Computer issue - Reboot and select proper boot device.

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Mr Fish, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...The pain of being dead...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Right, so I got an issue with my primary gaming computer. My knowledge of computers is that of a stereotypical blond bimbo so I have no idea how to solve it, anyway, when I woke up I started up my computer and it worked just fine like it always did. Used my password to get in and then opened up Opera Web Browser (which had maybe a half a dozen tabs open from the night before) and Itunes, like I always do. I then went out to brew some coffee and when I came back I tried to scroll down on Itunes to select an artist to listen to. Didn't work. Huh... Itunes froze huh? Weird... So I clicked the tab to open up Opera instead at the bottom left corner and the button thingie worked to click, like, it did its little animation to click but it didn't change browsers. Wow, this is weird, both froze? The fuck is going on? So I tried ctrl alt del so I could close them down and restart the computer. Didn't work. So I restarted the computer and I'm greeted with this message:

    reboot.jpg

    A bit worried, so I looked up the message on google on my phone real quick and saw some people suggesting I check out the hard drive in BIOS on startup. So I did that and I'm like "er.... Fuck do I do here?"

    Finally, I checked up some youtube videos where they solve this kind of problem and immediately noticed a big fucking difference between them and me.

    Checl out the BIOS optiobs for this guy:


    Versus what my BIOS screen looks like:
    1.jpg
    2.jpg
    3.jpg

    So for the more tech savvy out there, what the hell is going on?

    Additional notes:
    I have two hard drives (though upon opening the computer and looking around I can only distinguish one), I have C, which is very small and I have E which is my primary storing device and where I install all my Steam games on.

    20161015_130441.jpg
    As it says in the picture, there is a slot where another hard drive could be. In the front of the computer is a sliding panel which has a little sticker that says "please shut down the system before swapping the hard drive" so, yeah, it is clearly a slot 'for' a hard drive but there's never been anything in there since I got the computer.

    Yesterday, the room got way too hot so I opened up a window to cool it down, my PC is right next to the window and often times when there is a sudden shift in air I can hear little... Settling noises... You know, like when a plastic bottle sort of settles when there is a sudden shift in the temperature? Little sort of "pop" noises. Anyway, it's happened before so I've never thought much of it but now I'm wondering if those little noises it would make actually broke somethhing. Fuck if I know, I'm a blond bimbo, remember?
     
  2. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...The pain of being dead...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Update, clicked around and found this:
    1.jpg

    This is C:
    3.jpg

    And this is E:
    2.jpg

    So clearly the computer does recognize that the hard drives are still there.
     
  3. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Oct 28, 2009
    first i thought your HDD failed but it turns out you've checked it out and it runs in UEFI mode..
    I don't know wether Your windows install is based on AHCI or IDE but it's eigther or and it probably will only work on one or the other...
    other than that it might be something with your windows system, if so try to run windows repair install without uninstalling just repair.

    EDIT it looks to me that Yor main drive is SSD not HDD try to find S.M.A.R.T. options for that drive in bios and try to look if dhe drive did nor run out of it's write cycles, a.k.a. (maybe it's flash memory cells are dead)
    EDIT#2
    Just so You know SSD (a.k.a solid state drives) are prefered for their better performance in read and write speeds, but also suffer from a lot shorter lifespan due to limited times each flash memory cell can be written an read from. It varies from drive to drive but in general all manufacturers provide info how many write cycles the drive can have. The general rule of thumb is the smaller (in terms of memory size) and the cheaper the drive was the shorter it will last.
     
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  4. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...The pain of being dead...

    Sep 11, 2010
    How do I do the windows repair thing? With a Windows 8 disc? Cause I don't have that. Didn't get one when I bought the computer.
     
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  5. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Oct 28, 2009
    windows 8.1 does not come with a disc it comes on a USB thumb drive usually..
    try to look for anything windows related in the stuff that came with your computer it usually is a small paper box like for a traditional letter (nit a e-mail) only a bit bigger
     
  6. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...The pain of being dead...

    Sep 11, 2010
    I didn't get any USB drive either. I distinctly remember finding it weird that I didn't get anything along with it.

    "S.M.A.R.T. options" I don't know how to use that, I googled it and it says it is a third party tool? How would I use a third party tool on a computer that wont even start up properly?

    As to write cycles, I guess I've had it for over a year and it is on and running for most of the day when I wake up, could the SSD really have died? And if it has, would that mean that my best option is to get a new one?

    On a side note, I [Enabled] Boot Menu in the regular BIOS Boot Options tab and a new option popped up in the startup screen saying I should hit F12 for those options, however, when I mash the F12 key and see the little message indicating that it is woring on bringing it up it instantly goes back to the whole "reboot and select proper boot device". So whatever those options are, I can't enter them.

    [edit]

    In the image of my computer where the box says "hard drive?" I just noticed it says HDD, makes me wonder where the hell the SSD is..
     
  7. aenemic

    aenemic Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jun 4, 2008
    Clean your fucking monitor to begin with.
     
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  8. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Oct 28, 2009
    SSD is recognized by the computer as hdd because it is esentially a Hard Disk Drive only working on a different principals than a traditional HDD hence the name SSD but bios is an old tool so it does not recognize such a difference..
    However curently HDD's as a consumer product are manufactured 500GB and 1-2 TB mostly so a drive with a size of 128GB or 256GB (especially configured as primary drive) is most probably an SSD drive, but as i've said it makes no difference to BIOS usually..

    As for SSD failiure, I've suspected that You've used the drive a while longer than a year, but given the fact that it was used relatively not for long, it should not cause the drive to fail.

    S.M.A.R.T. is a hard drive's feature, essentially what it does it forces the drive into caughing up to the system more technical info about itself, especially how much longer it will last before it will fail.

    As for the Windows installation missing.. it might be true actually not to get an windows installation source from the manufacturer.. this is especially true for some brands of laptops/notebooks etc. where You get recovery partition instead but as You've said You've got a desktop PC, so it seemes strange.

    the information about "reboot and change boot device" is assciated with the fact that bios did not found specific files that enables it to start an operating system such as windows on the drive bios chose to boot from. so eigther:
    1.The drive is not operational
    2.the files mentioned above are corrupted or missing
    or
    3.You've caught some nasty webshit like ransomware or a virus wich messed up above said files
    4. You've messed up something in bios settings that bios is searching boot info on the incorrect drive.
    if the last one is the case try to set both drives to be used to boot in bios. like:
    #1DVD Drive
    #2 HDD1
    #3 HDD2
    #4 Boot other device/usb/etc.

    I'm afraid as for right now it's all i can help you.
     
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  9. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    I think your ssd looks like this:

    https://www.amazon.com/Lite-On-LMT-128L9M-LMS-128L9M-SMS-128L9M-30x50mm/dp/B00S7Y3H6A

    It should probably go somewhere around there:

    http://www.fmcc.se/images?id=446110815&type=main

    http://img04.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i4/69933784/TB2lfZBXVXXXXczXXXXXXXXXXXX_!!69933784.jpg

    I would guess that your ssd died a sudden death, which was the case for one of my previous ssd's. Although mine only lasted for a month.

    You could put a live ubuntu image on an usb drive, try to boot that usb drive, and if it is successful, try to enter your ssd from ubuntu file manager (to see if it even recognizes the ssd) .

    https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
     
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  10. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...The pain of being dead...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Barely even notice the dust cause of the lightning in here.

    Maybe a year and a half, but not more than that.

    Any idea how to start this S.M.A.R.T. feature from BIOS?

    1/2. That would mean broken, right?

    3. I doubt that one but if that would be the case how would I got about scanning for such a thing?

    4. I haven't screwed anything up in the BIOS settings, I tried changing the priority order once but then changed it right back.
    In my first post after this line "Versus what my BIOS screen looks like:" there are three images, the 2nd image shows the order in which they are prioritized. There isn't any HDD1 or HHD2, just [Hard Disk]

    I think I found it, it's half hidden behind the GeForce GTX.

    I'll look into that later, far too pissed off and tired right now.
     
  11. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Oct 28, 2009
    as for a live linux he could try to download a thing called: "Hiren's BootCD"
    and burn it on a cd/dvd, there are multiple tools to diagnose broken systems including a live linux with multiple hard drive tools (health diagnose, reformating etc.) also as said above you could try to acces the files from this linux. as it supports NTFS file system.

    1 yes
    2 drive not broken but windows installation screwed due to any reason.

    in eigther of the above case You'd have to get at least new source of windows installation(because wether its just broken windows or broken drive You'd need to somehow install a fresh copy of windows wether on the old or new drive), or give the computer to professionals to fix it for a fee :p

    As for S.M.A.R.T. feature search in bios and make sure it's set as enabled then Look it up on live linux from "Hiren's Boot CD" (chose disk health or whatever it's called from the desktop. the program's icon is informative enaugh to notice it.)
     
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  12. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
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  13. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Oct 28, 2009
    Lite-on is not a no name company... it's less known true, but at it's time made pretty damn good DVDRW+/- burners with RAW write option. an option that most producers cut out of their optical drives due to legal concerns. I actually still have one lite-on optical drive clogged up my 5,25" bay

    although they seposedly were breaking as hell nothing ever happened to mine.
     
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  14. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    Well regardless, looking at those links, this could be an intermittent problem and he might try to reboot a bunch of times. Although probably not a very high chance of success with that method and the ssd is probably dead.
     
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  15. gustarballs1983

    gustarballs1983 Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Oct 28, 2009
    True..
    I'd recommend to stay off the hell of ssd's anyway you never know when they crap out. better to buy a 7200 or 10000 rpm 32MB cache good 'ol HDD. If you are not into AAA games it should work just fine.
    I would also watch out for the MoBo Since it might be that faulty H67 chipset or similar wich after a few months of use has a sata crapout. Also a as I've said He's going to need a new copy of windows too since he had an manufacturer's patched oem without a backup copy, so He has nothing to reinstal with.
     
  16. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    The samsung EVO's 850 and up, seem to have a pretty good reputation and i have had no problem with mine (will post if i do :D).
     
  17. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...The pain of being dead...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Right, so I checked the date I ordered the computer, it was january 6th 2015. I also saw that my warranty was for 12 months, so that ain't gonna help me out anymore.

    [edit]

    As to giving it to proffesionals, er... I kinda got some weird porn on there. Nothing illegal or anything, just weird. I'd rather not anyone close to real life know about that shit. If I could just get into it momentarily, for half an hour, then just delete the couple of things I still got on there that I never transfered over to the laptop as well as clear some browser history (just in case) then I wouldn't mind just handing it over to proffesionals. Should never have been so dumb as to use the gaming PC for porn anyway. My laziness won over my caution. Oh well.

    Anyway, so the live linux is for a burnt cd and live ubuntu works on a USB stick? How would I go about actually booting a CD or USB stick from BIOS?

    Finally, I've heard about people "building computers" with the parts they like and shit, if this current ssd is completely fucked and I need to get a new one do I have to get a replica or can I just get whichever suits me the best and plug that thing in?
     
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  18. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    Find another windows computer, follow the instruction in the link i provided:

    https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows

    Once the program is done putting the ubuntu live image on the usb drive, plug in the usb drive in your computer, start it, and you can either:

    1) Press delete, to go to bios and change the boot order, so that USB (something that has usb drive/device/etc written in it) is the first device in the list
    2) press f12 (i think it's f12, maybe f11), which let's you select the device from which to boot

    After that it should boot straight into the ubuntu desktop and from there on it's pretty similar to windows, you just find the file manager and it should list your hard drives with the child porn. Then you can enter those drives and delete the porn. If it can only reconize your hdd and not your ssd, your ssd is probably dead.

    In case your motherboard is so old that it cannot boot from a usb drive, you can write the ubuntu live image to a dvd and boot from that:

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD

    If both of these methods don't work, try disabling SECURE BOOT option in your bios.

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    As for a new ssd, you can buy any sata or msata ssd. If you buy a normal looking one like this:

    http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Transcend-SSD720-7mm-SATA-III-SSD.jpg

    You will have to plug in these cables (for the little cable, one end goes into the ssd and the other end to the motherboard, the bigger one comes from the psu (power supply unit) and plugs into the ssd):

    http://cdn1.alphr.com/sites/alphr/f...016/01/sata-ssd-connections.jpg?itok=WnC5-s0e

    If you buy an msata ssd like the one you have now (meaning the same type, not the same brand), just plug that shit in the same place the current one resides in. If you are not sure if the other one is the same type, just take your ssd to the store and compare the connections. Just don't forget that you will still need a new windows installation (by whichever means you will get it).

    Edit: edited some mistakes
     
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  19. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...The pain of being dead...

    Sep 11, 2010
    It's more like the amount of granny and ssbbw porn that I don't want people in real life to see. :V (Oh and the vore >_>)

    Anyway, I'll give it a try later today and see how it works out.
     
  20. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    If you have sensitive information, in the future be sure to use encryption (with a password) on the folders you don't want anyone to have access to.
     
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