Fallout: The Frontier - Released!

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Proletären, Jan 15, 2021.

  1. cordelionreaver

    cordelionreaver Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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  2. Risewild

    Risewild Carbon Dated and Proud
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    Jun 14, 2014
    Just to answer some of the points. I must say that I am not angry or annoyed, but I have trouble writing large posts without always sounding annoyed or something. :postviper:

    It's not TTW's fault people ask modders for compatibility for it. People have been asking modders to make their mods compatible with other large and popular mods since modding is a thing. :roffle:

    No dev is a cuck, I should know... I'm one of the oldest TTW team members still active. So please don't go around insulting people you probably don't even know. :lol:

    Ruined balance? both FO3 and FNV allow to make an OP unbalanced character by level 5 or so... Not to mention that some of the most popular mods for NV are "perks per level" and "more perks" and even "max character level 99". A lot of people play with those three types of mods in vanilla FNV, and that makes the game way more unbalanced than TTW can ever do.
    Specially since no one forces the player to pick certain perks. If perks from both games makes the game unbalanced for you, then don't pick them, pick only FNV perks or FO3 perks. The player is the one who chooses how to make their character, don't blame TTW for having more choices to pick from, blame the player for picking those perks. :rofl:

    Also, most FO3 players who play TTW consider it extremely hard. They say that the Capital Wasteland's Super Mutants are too hard.

    The mod can't corrupt your entire game at all. I have no idea where you got this from, but game corruption is not caused by TTW.

    Usually what corrupts the game is people not following instructions, being impatient and canceling the installation process midway through, not listening to the TTW team and install incompatible mods because "it works fine for me", installing generally broken mods, installing junk into their game's Data folder, using shit mod managers like NMM, installing broken codec packs on their computer or validate Steam files with TTW installed, which makes Steam remove TTW altered files and replace them with the vanilla ones, which will break TTW.
    Basically, people corrupt their games because they don't know how to mod. :help:

    Also the TTW team officially recommends people to use Mod Organizer 2 and make their own Game profile for TTW (which is a default option on Mod Organizer 2 and everything), if people do that, they can't possibly corrupt their FNV game in any way using mods through MO2. :postviper:

    EDIT: I understand people who criticize TTW because it adds FO3 to FNV, so it's quite a stark contrast of quality. Playing FNV and FO3 side by side in the same game makes this quite visible.

    I understand people who criticize TTW because it improves FO3 but doesn't do much for FNV.

    I understand criticism from people who say that TTW is more restrictive in terms of modding, than just FNV or FO3.

    I understand saying it's not lore-friendly, because it's not, and no team member will ever say it is. TTW is a total conversion with it's own lore, of course it's not lore friendly... Hell, even just by having FO3 content makes it never gonna be lore friendly.

    I understand people who say that TTW has several balancing issues with the price of stuff (selling and buying), with some weapons being UP and OP, with some enemies being unbalanced, etc.

    I understand criticism about TTW having both FNV and FO3 speech checks (value and %), and about how TTW's FO3 part doesn't have Factions like FNV.

    TTW is not perfect and never will be, we are balancing the entire game for version 3.3. So maybe the balance will be better then, but no matter what we do, it will never be perfect, just like FO3 and FNV are not perfect either.

    We welcome constructive criticism, but saying "Devs are cucks lol", "unbalanced because it has perks from both games", "players nag modders for compatibilty" and "it corrupts the entire game", are not helpful and some are not even true. :aiee: :lol:
     
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  3. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Shoot me again. I ain't dead yet. Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Totally something a cuck would say.

    :unload:
     
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  4. Risewild

    Risewild Carbon Dated and Proud
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    Jun 14, 2014
    Indeed...

    Wait, aren't cucks proud of being cucks? :confused:
     
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  5. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Shoot me again. I ain't dead yet. Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    :hatersgonnahate:

    Really though TTW is cool and anyone butthurt about it should go suck an egg.
     
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  6. megamike15

    megamike15 It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    i wanna blame old world blues for this. it made people think you can be wacky and silly in new vegas because of it.

    the issue is there are not that many middle ground in terms of tone for mods

    your either way to silly or way to dark.
     
  7. Ceratisa

    Ceratisa Sarcastic SOB

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    Nov 4, 2013
    How can you blame old world blues for that? I loved that DLC, if this had been of similar quality silly/zany or not, it would have likely been better received (minus all the fetish shit)

    Disclaimer: Fallout 2 is my favorite in the series so of course I love whacky shit.
     
  8. 1Punman

    1Punman It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jan 29, 2021
    What happened, is a textbook example what not to do, when you're working on a project in general.
     
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  9. 1Punman

    1Punman It Wandered In From the Wastes

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  10. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    Call me crazy but I thought Old World Blues was dark and humorous in tandem.
     
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  11. 1Punman

    1Punman It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jan 29, 2021
    Has anyone seen and posted this stinker?


    Edit: Watch your step, it looks like I've made quite a mess.
     
  12. JunjiItosGio

    JunjiItosGio It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Oct 29, 2020
    Isn't this video by the same guy who recently claimed "Fallout New Vegas 2 is on the way"?
     
  13. Norzan

    Norzan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Apr 7, 2017
    It was both, yeah. People like to say it's just wacky shit because "lol brains in fish tanks saying funny stuff", but the DLC has a lot of dark undertones.
     
  14. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    You got to be a fucking doofus to think SCIENCE and the mad doctors who practice it are to zany for Fallout.
     
  15. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    It's the epitome of Fallout's style of comedy. Satirical retrofuturism paired equally with dark sci-fi dystopianism and a horrific reality underneath. It misfires a bit because the satire part is dripping with 2011 era internet humour but at times it feels like most people don't even remember the end of the DLC. The talk with your brain is farcical and stupid but the conversation with Dr. Mobius I always found quite sobering.
     
  16. 1Punman

    1Punman It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jan 29, 2021
    Yes it's the same guy. He claims a lot of things that never come to fruition. Gotta keep that content coming and rumour mill running.
     
  17. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    Homie needs them youtube bucks.
     
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  18. 1Punman

    1Punman It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jan 29, 2021
    He tries bit too hard if you ask me.
     
  19. 1Punman

    1Punman It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jan 29, 2021
    And because being citizen of Romour town and Speculation city he is hated and ridiculed in some parts of Valve game community, if you ask me it is not looking good after rebranding, but history of that is soap opera of its own. He is much of a journalist as I am a vault dweller in real life. And I bet these insiders he has give him bits and pieces of info so can he sod off, being persistent numbnuts he is.
     
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  20. JunjiItosGio

    JunjiItosGio It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    I've literally never heard of this guy until I saw the article claiming he has insider info on "New Vegas 2". I literally couldn't believe what I was reading. From what I see in that video you posted, he looks like he'd believe the sky was falling if I told him it was lol.