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Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Eumesmopo, Feb 12, 2023.

  1. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    Oh I reached a point with Fallout 4 where I would not tell people I like Fallout unless I know what kinda person they are cause I just don't wanna get into it. And if someone were to ask me if I like Fallout I'd just say I don't like it and move on to another conversation. At this point I would never admit to ever having liked Fallout to outsiders.
     
  2. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020


    Neato. The shots all look good atleast.
     
  3. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    Goofy ass power armor.
     
  4. william dempsey

    william dempsey Veteran of the psychic wars. [REDACTED]

    Jan 23, 2022
    Was that supposed to be a ghoul at 25:00? Looked like my fucking dog lol
     
  5. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    Naaaahh
    That's one of the best designs.
     
  6. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Antediluvian as Feck

    Nov 26, 2007
    I don't think so; Bethesda's designs never fit the setting.
    With hubris they inserted their own PA design into the lore as an earlier model than the ones already established in the series, yet their designs would not have evolved into the —later— designs seen in Fallout 1 & 2. This makes an incongruity.

    My issue with the armor seen in the video, is that the actors do not impart the assumed weight of functional PA suits.
    [...this is wildly debatable of course, as Fallout lists the weight of the armor as an absurd 42 pounds.]
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  7. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    So you're a lot more knowledgeable about power armor lore than I am, would you mind giving me a rundown on inconsistencies in the power armor lore?
     
  8. Mirin Lurker

    Mirin Lurker It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Oct 25, 2022
    Honestly it looks shitty. Negative hype teaser. Not even anything specifically, just looks like bland streaming show garbage.
     
  9. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Antediluvian as Feck

    Nov 26, 2007
    What inconsistencies in specific?

    I am not the best source of technical lore... The first games list the t-51 as weighing 42 pounds, and the ADV Enclave PA from Fallout 2 as weighing 50 pounds. Presumably these are not made from conventional metal, but from advanced polymer/ceramics —I've no idea.

    In theory the suits work like humanoid bipedal self actuating vehicles that avoid the wearer's internal movements—as opposed to the heavy loader that Ripley uses in the Aliens film, which is piloted like a walking forklift.

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    The Enclave PA is described (somewhere) as having leg-locks, for guard duty; such that the wearer can immobilize the legs, and just relax in the suit.

    *In both styles [Aliens & Fallout] this should mean that it works more like a vehicle than an armored outfit.
    The occupant's personal strength should not affect it (nor improve upon it); that would be of dubious utility, and be mechanically dangerous.

    When FO3 was still in development, I suggested (on Bethsoft) that power armor be treated like a vehicle, for the reason that close quarter environments could require that the PC exit the armor at times... like to climb down a manhole, or walk up rickety stairs in a burned out house; both of which would strip them of the strength advantage from wearing the armor, and so reinforce that need for strength point allocation, and not just game the system to assume strength from the PA suits.

    I also suggested that any [working] suit that was capable of self balance should be capable of being pulled along by a tether, so that the PC did not have to carry it when not being worn.
     
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  10. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    Yeah, that's a timeline issue, I agree. Not familiar with Hubris though. I'm more talking about the industrial design looking good.

    Bucky paper encased in another material which lets them get away with less metal and lower weight. Something like that maybe. Could explain why PA can tank damage so well until parts start falling off due to this type of construction.
     
  11. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    May 12, 2020
    Hubris: Overbearing pride or presumption; arrogance.
    This is something that always bothered me about the flat Strength bonuses that power armor gives. I actually modded FNV power armor to give +10 Strength so that every character gets the same Strength while wearing power armor regardless of the character’s Strength without it. Also gave salvaged power armor -10 Agility to reflect that you really shouldn’t be able to move well at all wearing unpowered power armor.
     
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  12. Slaughter Manslaught

    Slaughter Manslaught Vault Senior Citizen

    Dec 11, 2006
    Re: PA Strength Bonus and Character Strength

    My headcanon is that PA works WITH the User's strength somehow, its not just hydraulics doing the work.

    But I agree that plausability-wise, it shouldn't be affected by player strength.