Kosovo in blood!

Jebus said:
That's more like two words and a digit, though.
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:rofl:

How about World War one?

About Kosovo...why am I not surprised or concerned? I want to be, but I'm not. Simple, because the media is spinning it. Blame the media friends, not eachother. Ok, so it was a tragic, and bad thing, but not "OH FUCK! WORLD WAR 3 MAN!" Or "OH SHIT! BALKAN WAR 2 MAN!" This shit happens everywhere, happened in the U.S. when Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. Did that turn into a war/revolution? No, but it did shake shit up.
 
NATO general (i forgot his name) admited this is a clear case of ethnic cleansing.UMNIK's PR said that the boys drowned because they didn't know to swim NOT because they were chased by the dogs thus CNN & BBC continue to lie although this info is certainly available to them.Czech prime minister said this is "Kosovo's Kristalnacht".

Does anybody knows what UN's security council said about this?
 
Grim Reaper said:
CNN & BBC continue to lie
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:? So the media is lying about the Kosovo massacre and stuff like that.... Do you really think its a great lie made by the western media? Why every news channel is going to lie???? There is petrol in Servia and Montenegro? Something that Us or the European governments would be interested?

Anyway the situation is over control. :roll: According to U.N.


CNN - The Big Satan according to some people said:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/03/19/kosovo.violence/index.html

PRISTINA, Kosovo (CNN) -- A tense calm prevailed Friday night in Kosovo after three days of ethnic violence in which at least 28 people were killed and 600 were wounded.

"I think we have turned the corner and we have regained control," said Derek Chapel, a spokesman for UNMIK, the U.N. Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo.

More international forces were due to arrive Friday in the region to enforce the peace.

During the upheaval, ethnic Albanian protesters burned to the ground 16 Serbian churches and 110 Serbian houses, U.N. spokeswoman Isabella Karlowitz said.

Earlier reports of 31 dead were found to be in error when the world body determined that three bodies had been counted twice, she said.

Mainstream Serbian and Albanian political leaders in Kosovo have appealed for calm, but an extremist minority appeared to be fomenting violence, she said.

Earlier Friday, a loud blast shook a high-rise building in Mitrovica, scene of the worst clashes this week, and NATO-led troops evacuated residents, Reuters reported.

Smoke billowed from windows in the building, populated mainly by Albanians, but located in the Serb-dominated northern part of the ethnically divided town. French NATO peacekeepers soldiers carried out two elderly people.

Kosovo -- in the country of Serbia and Montenegro, the former Yugoslavia -- has been under U.N. administration since the war ended in 1999. NATO is responsible for peacekeeping efforts and protecting the minority Serbs.

France agreed to deploy 400 troops, 200 to arrive on Friday and the rest in the coming days, according to a spokesman for the Ministry of Defense.

Germany's Defense Ministry said it would send 600 forces, which will start moving in Saturday. The rest of the troops will begin arriving Sunday and the first groups will be ready for their mission Monday, the ministry said.

Germany already has more than 3,000 forces stationed in Prizren, which is in the headquarters of the German sector of Kosovo.

Additional NATO troops include an American and an Italian unit, 500 British troops and 150 British and U.S. troops from neighboring Bosnia according to a spokeswoman for Kosovo's Prime Minister Bajram Rexhepi and a NATO spokeswoman in Brussels.

In Washington, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage met Friday with Serbia and Montenegro Foreign Minister Goran Svilanovic.

"Both stated that the immediate priority is to end the violence," said Adam Ereli, deputy spokesman for the State Department, in a written statement.

The two men "agreed that UNMIK and KFOR must act decisively" to protect people and property from further violence, Ereli said. KFOR is NATO's Kosovo Force.

Svilanovic said the violence was intended to cleanse the region of Serbs, to scare international organizations in the region and to prevent any further arrests of Kosovar Albanians indicted by a war-crimes tribunal.

"We cannot even use the term that this is an ethnic conflict," he said. "Basically, this was violence against the Serbs."

Svilanovic said he wants the establishment of a new organization in Kosovo that would guarantee Serbs the right to live in peace.

"It seems that Albanians are not at this moment willing to live together with Serbs," he said. "I hope that this is going to be changed, and that reason and political leadership will prevail."

Kosovo is home to 2 million ethnic Albanians and fewer than 100,000 Serbs. Svilanovic said the violence appeared to be the work only of a "very extreme" group of Albanians.

Madeleine Albright, who served as ambassador to the United Nations and later as secretary of state under President Bill Clinton, helped broker peace in Kosovo. She blamed the current unrest on neglect.

"There have to be more discussions about the final status of Kosovo," she told CNN. "There has been a kind of a vacuum of interest in Kosovo. Extremists have filled that vacuum."

She added that there's neither been enough action by the United Nations "in terms of engaging properly with the Kosovars to give them hope" nor enough attention from the United States. "We did not have time to finish the job in Kosovo, and I just wish that there had not been a vacuum created there," she said.

The worst spate of ethnic clashes since the end of the Kosovo war in 1999 began early Wednesday after three Albanian children drowned.

U.N. officials said the children were being chased by Serbs and drowned in a river that separates the two communities in Mitrovica.

Soon afterward, riots erupted in parts of the majority-Albanian province. KFOR soldiers and police sprayed tear gas, set up roadblocks and established a curfew, but were unable to control the situation.

"We had attacks on every single ethnic Serb enclave," Serb government minister Aleksandr Popovic said about Wednesday's events. "You had orchestrated attacks."


Protesters throw stones at riot police in a Belgrade suburb.
Thousands of Albanians swept through Serbian enclaves. More than 1,000 Serbians were evacuated for their own protection to KFOR military bases.

Independent observers who asked not to be identified said the uprising appeared to be a planned campaign. They said they were told that text messages were sent to Albanians' cell phones inciting them to riot.

On Thursday, Serbs set fire to a mosque in Nis and wrote, in graffiti, "This is for Kosovo".
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But all of this tends to point to the same conclusions.

SInce the war in Kosovo the problem has not been resolved. For peace to be sustainable, more has to be done than preventing bloodshed but also dealing with the causes that could lead to that bloodshed in the first place.

Kosovo has been in limbo status since the war- it's suppose to go back to Serbia but the Kosovars are right in thinking that would be a disaster.

So they are organized, the serbs are organized and the next time there is a trigger it will probably be worse.
 
spader said:
Grim it is simple as that you fu....ed once now they are fu....ing you back
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Oh really...well none of this would happen if it hasn't been for your precious halfling Tito who allowed Albanians to multiply like rats and forbided the return of Serbian refugess to Kosovo after WWII.

And as for CNN being liars...Albanians have one of the greatest and most influental lobies in the world.Thanks to their mafia.
 
ej man tito died in 1980 let it go
and do not talk abaut tito like that now go and wash your mouth with soup
 
Jebus he is talking about this soup. :lol:

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It is soap,not soup.

Since you are Slovenian you don't have no quarell with Tito.If you were in our (Serbian) skin you would understand.
 
soup,soap,suck,sup
it is al the same to me ( in shame he runs and screams like a little girl )
 
Yes, it's the Economist weighing in again. Did someone say "elections?" At least SLovenia is doing swellishly-

http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2521449

Peace hopes go up in flames

Mar 19th 2004
From The Economist Global Agenda


NATO is sending reinforcements to Kosovo, amid the worst violence in the Balkan province since it came under United Nations control in 1999

“WAR!” was the screaming headline in one of Serbia’s main newspapers. “Kosovo in blood” said another. On Thursday March 18th, NATO sent reinforcements into the disputed Serbian province of Kosovo after violence between its majority of ethnic Albanian Muslims and the ethnic Serb minority left 22 people dead and hundreds injured, including some NATO peacekeepers. Both NATO and the UN Security Council held emergency meetings in their headquarters as the violence spread to Serbia’s largest cities, where Muslim targets came under attack. Up to 150 American troops and 80 Italian police were dispatched to Kosovo on Thursday. France, Germany and Britain are also each sending hundreds of extra troops.

Kosovo has been under United Nations control since 1999, when bombing by NATO forced Serbia’s then leader, Slobodan Milosevic, to withdraw his forces from the province, where they had been cracking down on ethnic Albanian separatists. Kosovo now has around 18,500 NATO-led troops and 9,000 UN and local police keeping the peace.

The latest outbreak of fighting flared up remarkably quickly: only last Sunday, a senior UN peacekeeping official, Jean-Marie Guéhenno, ended a visit to Kosovo by announcing that elections would be held there in October. He praised the province’s improved security (despite the bomb left outside the UN’s headquarters in Kosovo a few days earlier) and the return of Serb refugees who had fled after the Serbian forces’ withdrawal in 1999. But then, on Monday, a Serbian youth from a village near Kosovo’s capital, Pristina, was hurt in a drive-by shooting. Three Albanian boys then drowned in the River Ibar, which divides the town of Mitrovica into an Albanian-inhabited south and a Serbian north. The Albanians claimed that the children had been chased into the river by Serbs. Rioting and shooting broke out, and Serbian enclaves elsewhere were attacked. Serb churches and houses were torched, and the UN evacuated its Mitrovica staff. In Serbia’s capital, Belgrade, angry groups took to the streets, attacking the main mosque. Another mosque was torched in Nis.

Though the UN has been resolutely insisting that things are getting better in Kosovo, and has devolved some of its powers to a multi-ethnic government of Albanians and a few Serbs, progress has been extremely slow. Now, says Daut Dauti, a Kosovo analyst, “it’s back to the old days.” According to Mr Dauti, the rage that has exploded in Kosovo has been building because, since 1999, “nothing has really happened.” Kosovo has not become independent, which is what the Albanians want. And its economy is dire, with unemployment as high as 70%.

The history of Kosovo’s conflict is long, complex and bloody. To Serbs, the province is their Jerusalem, the birthplace of their national culture. But during the centuries in which this part of Europe was under the Turkish Ottoman empire, Kosovo came to be inhabited mostly by ethnic Albanians, who now make up more than 90% of the province’s population of around 1.8m. As the Ottoman empire started crumbling, from the late 19th century, Serbia first regained independence, then retook Kosovo. After the second world war, Kosovo and Serbia were absorbed into the newly formed communist federation of Yugoslavia. In the early 1990s, as Yugoslavia collapsed amid inter-ethnic wars, Albanian leaders in Kosovo declared independence, prompting Mr Milosevic to dissolve the province’s autonomous government and crack down on the separatists.

In 2000, a year after the NATO bombings forced Serbian troops out of Kosovo, Mr Milosevic was toppled—he is now on trial at a war-crimes tribunal in The Hague. Last year, talks reopened between the Serbian government and Kosovo’s Albanian leaders, and the UN presented a “roadmap” plan, leading to talks in 2005 on the province’s final status. But while Kosovo’s Albanians are getting impatient for independence and venting their frustrations on their NATO and UN protectors, in Serbia there has been anger that, while Mr Milosevic and other Serbs are on trial, no ethnic Albanian had been indicted for the killings of hundreds of Serbs in Kosovo during and since the war. But last month, four Albanian Kosovars were arrested and hauled to The Hague; the court says it is investigating others.

Such frustration helped hardline nationalist parties to do well in December’s parliamentary elections in Serbia, obliging the new prime minister, Vojislav Kostunica, a more moderate nationalist, to form a new, minority government that depends on support from Mr Milosevic’s Socialists. Mr Kostunica has called for the official “cantonisation” of Kosovo. Albanians, probably rightly, see this as a forerunner to partition.

In most of the rest of the former Yugoslavia, peace has returned and there is the prospect of renewed prosperity. Slovenia—the part of the Balkans least affected by the turmoil of recent years—will join the European Union in May. Croatia and Macedonia, followed by Bosnia, are making slow but steady progress towards joining the list of EU candidate countries. But any hopes that Kosovo, and Serbia itself, were also heading for normality have now taken a severe knock.
 
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Gloom and doom, continued

Apr 7th 2004 | BELGRADE
From The Economist print edition


A troubled Balkan country, at risk from a nationalist revival

SERBS are feeling unloved. Last week the Americans suspended (some) bilateral aid, because of the Serbian government's failure to co-operate fully with the war-crimes tribunal in The Hague. The $26m involved is small—Serbia expects €1.1 billion ($1.3 billion) from other sources. And the money can be reinstated if Serbia hands over more suspects accused of war crimes, notably Ratko Mladic, the wartime commander of the Bosnian Serbs. But the suspension is rekindling nationalism.

Many Serbs note bitterly that NATO does not do much better than they do: it has just failed, yet again, to arrest General Mladic's former boss, Radovan Karadzic, in Bosnia. They resent the suspension of aid all the more because it comes just after the latest example of ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, the victims being Serbs driven from their homes in the Serbian province of Kosovo by ethnic Albanians under the noses of NATO troops.

Serb disgruntlement matters because, on June 13th, Serbia holds a presidential election in which the strongest candidate may be Tomislav Nikolic, leader of the extreme-nationalist Radical Party. Any action against Serbs wanted in The Hague will surely win Mr Nikolic more votes; his party is the biggest in Serbia's parliament.

Rumours in Belgrade suggest that Vojislav Kostunica, Serbia's prime minister, has been working to get General Mladic to give himself up. It is not only American cash that is at stake. Serbia will not now be admitted in June to NATO's waiting-room, the Partnership for Peace. And a new report from the European Commission identifies failure to co-operate with The Hague as a reason for Serbia's stalled progress towards starting the EU accession process.

For two months after its parliamentary election on December 28th, Serbia limped along without a government. Now it has a minority administration led by Mr Kostunica. Many analysts, noting that it is formed of parties with little in common, do not expect it to last long. But one pundit, Braca Grubacic, says that this might, paradoxically, work the other way. He says Serbia has, in effect, three autonomous governments, each taking care of its own business. Mr Kostunica's party looks after security and non-economic reforms; G17 Plus, a party that has evolved from a think-tank, deals with the economy; and the head of one of two smaller parties in government, Vuk Draskovic, once a fiery nationalist, is likely to be foreign minister.

Since the renewed violence in Kosovo, all parties have united in defence of the Serbs still there, arguing that the best way forward is to give them some form of territorial autonomy. But as Kosovo fades from the headlines, normal squabbling has resumed. The governing parties were divided over last week's decision to give financial help to the families of men in jail in The Hague. Yet on one thing, at least, all are agreed: the need to fend off the Radicals.

If Mr Nikolic becomes president, his powers will at least be limited. But Mr Draskovic declares that Mr Nikolic's election would lead to “a high level of isolation” for Serbia from the rest of the world. Mr Kostunica retorts that the West would be foolish to isolate the country, because this would harm the whole region, not just Serbia. But he does not believe Mr Nikolic will win. The hope is that the “democratic block” can unite behind the candidacy of Boris Tadic, now defence minister—though Mr Kostunica has yet to endorse him.

Mr Nikolic is toning down his party's language. “It is not extremism to defend your country and people,” he says. If NATO and the UN can't defend Serbs in Kosovo, he adds, they should let Serbia do the job. That will not happen—not least because it would mean war with Kosovo Albanians. But many voters like the nationalist message. Things “are not fantastically optimistic,” says Mr Grubacic.
 
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