I've had a quick look here on the forums and have tried following the "Quad Made Man" FAQ available on the Net, but can't quite do this so I thought I'd ask here.
Patched European version of Fallout 2 - having done all the necessary pre-made man missions for the four families, I've been trying to become a made man for all four whilst killing three of the four bosses - my aim being to leave the Wrights standing.
I went to Bishop first, not a problem, and even managed to kill him without turning his gang hostile not by using the safe trap method but by super-stimming him, then planting some plastique on him. Worked a treat, and I wasn't attacked. Tick in box. I tried doing him second, but my sneak is nowhere near strong enough to get past 2 floors of guards.
Salvatore - well, I managed to get upstairs without getting engaged but the guard looking at me turned hostile without fail so I just had to go in guns blazing and accept I wasn't going to get made; annoying, but I ended up with shades and laser pistols galore, so....
Mordino, managed to run into the casino and to him fast enough to get dialogue, became a made man and then poisoned him. Another tick in box.
So now all that's left is to get to the dialogue with Orville Wright. This is the problem: I can get into his "mansion" at night, despite the number of onlookers, and get myself in a corner beyond Keith Wright where I won't be spotted. From reading the FAQs, opening the door yourself can turn the bosses or their help hostile. However, even having managed to get Sulik to run into Orville's room first, Wright is immediately hostile to me even with no weapons drawn etc. I've even tried blowing the door with dynamite so I can run straight through without opening it, but no luck there.
One thought which does occur - I happen to be Mentat'd up when I'm doing this - would that be an issue for the non-drug Wrights? Has anyone else attempted this? I'm considering just committing myself to engaging the other families and wiping them out to get rid of my made man status for Mordino and Bishop so that I can become Wright's made man. But equally, if there's no difference to the ending with the other bosses dead, does it matter, XP points aside? Just like to know, really, as it's been bugging me trying to do it!
(Incidentally, character is wearing Mk II Combat Armour although I tried it without in case that was making me look like a hitman, which is what Wright accuses me of being).
Any advice would be appreciated. Oh, and as an aside - I have invisible kids syndrome. I understand from the FAQs there should be kids, but as this is the European version they're not there graphically but their general play speech is intact!
Patched European version of Fallout 2 - having done all the necessary pre-made man missions for the four families, I've been trying to become a made man for all four whilst killing three of the four bosses - my aim being to leave the Wrights standing.
I went to Bishop first, not a problem, and even managed to kill him without turning his gang hostile not by using the safe trap method but by super-stimming him, then planting some plastique on him. Worked a treat, and I wasn't attacked. Tick in box. I tried doing him second, but my sneak is nowhere near strong enough to get past 2 floors of guards.
Salvatore - well, I managed to get upstairs without getting engaged but the guard looking at me turned hostile without fail so I just had to go in guns blazing and accept I wasn't going to get made; annoying, but I ended up with shades and laser pistols galore, so....
Mordino, managed to run into the casino and to him fast enough to get dialogue, became a made man and then poisoned him. Another tick in box.
So now all that's left is to get to the dialogue with Orville Wright. This is the problem: I can get into his "mansion" at night, despite the number of onlookers, and get myself in a corner beyond Keith Wright where I won't be spotted. From reading the FAQs, opening the door yourself can turn the bosses or their help hostile. However, even having managed to get Sulik to run into Orville's room first, Wright is immediately hostile to me even with no weapons drawn etc. I've even tried blowing the door with dynamite so I can run straight through without opening it, but no luck there.
One thought which does occur - I happen to be Mentat'd up when I'm doing this - would that be an issue for the non-drug Wrights? Has anyone else attempted this? I'm considering just committing myself to engaging the other families and wiping them out to get rid of my made man status for Mordino and Bishop so that I can become Wright's made man. But equally, if there's no difference to the ending with the other bosses dead, does it matter, XP points aside? Just like to know, really, as it's been bugging me trying to do it!
(Incidentally, character is wearing Mk II Combat Armour although I tried it without in case that was making me look like a hitman, which is what Wright accuses me of being).
Any advice would be appreciated. Oh, and as an aside - I have invisible kids syndrome. I understand from the FAQs there should be kids, but as this is the European version they're not there graphically but their general play speech is intact!
