Plato's allegory of the cave realised in horrible fashion.

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The only escapee of North Koreas most brutal prison camp has lived to tell us a story of unspeakable horror. Starved of food and common humanity, Shin proves that gulags are still a tragic reality.
We were always hungry. Shins most vivid memory of his life in the camp is the constant hunger he felt, food made me escape, even if it was going to cost me my life. The only thing that interested me was the food. Before his escape three years ago, he didnt even know that a world existed beyond the barbed wires. Until then, his life had been one of torture, hard labour and complete isolation. My mother was supposed to inform on me and me on her. He believed she deserved her fate as he witnessed her execution. I blamed her. I had no real feelings as a kid. Shin didnt know love, only violence. Once the guards beat a little girl on the head so hard, she died the next day. He eventually escaped through a gap in a high-voltage fence. His charred legs still bear the scars. As horrible as it is, Shins story is not unique. Wang, himself a former prisoner, is a prominent writer on the subject. He believes that oppression in North Korea will keep increasing: The brutality of the system has grown to the point where Kim Jong Il now fears that he will suffer the same fate as Caucescu of Romania. He simply wants to kill all his enemies.

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Google Tech Talks
May, 12 2008

ABSTRACT

Google will be hosting Dong Hyuk Shin, a 26-year-old North Korean defector born and raised in a concentration camp. Shin was born on Nov. 19, 1982 and called the camp home until 2005. While at the camp, he endured daily beatings, torture, starvation-level rations, saw forced abortions and even witnessed the public execution of his mother and brother in 1996. Shin described his life of total isolation from the world: "In South Korea, although there is disappointment and sadness, there is also so much joy, happiness and comfort. In Kaechon, I did not even know such emotions existed. The only emotion I ever knew was fear: fear of beatings, fear of starvation, fear of torture and fear of death." LiNK's Executive Director Adrian Hong will brief the audience on the broader issue of human rights in North Korea, as well as the current refugee situation and what can be done to help. Liberty in North Korea, or LiNK, is an international non-governmental organization devoted to human rights in North Korea and the protection of North Korean refugees.

This talk will be taped.

Speaker: Adrian Hong
Adrian Hong: Adrian Hong currently serves as Executive Director of Liberty in North Korea, or LiNK, an international NGO devoted to human rights in North Korea, and the protection of North Korean refugees all over the world. In December of 2006, Mr. Hong was arrested along with 2 LiNK field workers and 6 North Korean refugees in the People's Republic of China and imprisoned before being released and deported

Speaker: Dong-hyuk SHIN
Dong-hyuk SHIN: Mr. Shin was born and raised in Political Prison Camp No. 14 until his escape in 2005. Based in South Korea, he has testified before Britain's House of Lords, and published a book in 2007 entitled "I Was a Political Prisoner at Birth in North Korea" published by the DataBase Center for North Korean Human Rights. Mr. Shin aspires to attend college and hopes to become a policeman.


The psychological aspects of this combined with the political fact that this is a modern relic, as no society has ever had a forcible social structure to negate all aspects of free-will, and is a complete police-state. These aspects of the system in place upon human beings is a modern day hell, and fascinating aspect on political, social, and psychological sciences. Yes, this is slightly old news, and some would argue that worse conditions exist in the world today, but this is different. This is the total vacuum of the aspect of free will within a human being.
 
this is truly horrible and I can't understand how this shit can still happen in the 21st century.

I find it kind of odd how this Shin guy is so well mannered and knowledgable. I didn't watch the whole video and don't know his entire story, but one would think that growing up in such circumstances with no contact with the outer world would leave you in much worse shape. they must've at least had some sort of education in this camp.
 
Maybe he's a spy. How can we tell he's not working for them.

Growing in a camp = total indoctrination.

Also, freudian slip about south korea's problems... :o
 
He show's hints of psychopathy and is probably has characteristics of a sociopath. It's obvious that he will have mental defects for the rest of his life.

But it's also amazing to see the human brain as it reacts to completely new circumstances.
 
Makes you wonder what fate Kim Jong Il awaits if there is an afterlife.

There will probably be no definitions for it, but if there is any form of karma his victims will be waiting for him to give him what he truly deserves.

As for the here and now, I hope an assassin with a sniper rifle and that he dies during a speech.
 
They should just kill him a la Ceausescu.

His worst fear realized... I'd watch that.
 
They'd probably kill him if they got access to food, and 30% of the population wasn't in the armed forces, and they weren't indoctrinated to believe that the outside world was a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
 
Kim Jung has the perfect political strategy.

Lie pretty much about everything to the point where the truth is just confusing and almost unbelievable.
 
If there's an afterlife, not even the devil would take Kim Jong Il, cause he'd turn hell into a dreadfull place for all the demons and such.

You know, there's a North Korean travel agency and if you get enough money you can go there and visit it.

Cause they all try to save appearances and whatnot they'll treat visitors like kings... or so i'm told. Would be cool to go there, not so cool for the people living there tho...
 
Visitors to North Korea are only allowed in Pyongyang and the more developed regions of the country.

That said, the country has actually been improving over the past couple of years.
 
Neither do most New Yorkers.

But I stress Improved, from a grade of F- to D-.
 
D- is still pass. I'd call it F+.

And how do you know it has improved? Sources?
 
http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2010/04/05/scott-snyder-on-rason/

Also, I'd give it a D- because it still resembles a country and is not falling apart. Mostly due to marvelous other countries to compare it to like Congo.

Anyways, Kim Jung Il has the ability to run his country without food, imagine what alittle bit of food can do for his regime. More than likely he would use it to enforce himself politically.
 
Sicblades said:
They should just kill him a la Ceausescu.

His worst fear realized... I'd watch that.
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How about this?

Him tied firmly tied up on one of those automated assembly lines, but with the robot arms equipped with drills, saws, welders, cutting lasers etc, moving up and down as he slowly moves towards them.
 
That's way to comical and bond villain. That for me would be a fun death.

I'd prefer forcing him to overeat salt while laying in a vat of it with the upper layer of his skin peeled off, until his stomach ruptures, and then clotts again due to the salt, until he finally turns into this sick and dehydrated lump of human shit.

This is after the first 4 times he passed out from the vomiting.
 
So Plato was too chicken shit to think for himself, and he made up Socrates?

On topic: I prefer firing squad. With a twist. Form a line. One guy behind the other. About 300 guys to make it interesting... when you get to the front of the line you take your shot. Only one of the guns has a metal slug. The rest rubber or blanks.
 
How about this? Put him in a room filled with powdered glass. Lock him in and turn on a fan. Laugh maniacally.
 
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