Project Van Buren [Unity3D]

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Hardboiled Wanderer, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. Hardboiled Wanderer

    Hardboiled Wanderer I'm just here for the guzzoline...

    Apr 24, 2016
    Really? I can see it though. Wait one, I'll look into it.

    EDIT: Fixed now. Also look at the OP, I've added a few more pics there
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  2. ironmask

    ironmask Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Mar 10, 2018
    Okay, I can see now. Looks nice. Your screenshots remind of Troika fallout.
  3. CubeMel0n

    CubeMel0n First time out of the vault

    Apr 30, 2016
  4. Hardboiled Wanderer

    Hardboiled Wanderer I'm just here for the guzzoline...

    Apr 24, 2016

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  5. Ediros

    Ediros Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Feb 4, 2016
    Dayum, nice work. I wouldn't mind playing Fallout in top view, if IT looked like that. Sadly, bugthesda still exists.

    Keep up the good work
  6. Paladin Hank

    Paladin Hank Still Mildly Glowing

    May 6, 2018
    Agreed. This looks fantastic.
  7. Norzan

    Norzan Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 7, 2017
    Yeah, that looks pretty great.
  8. Sagez

    Sagez It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Oct 29, 2013
    Amazing. I want to play the tutorial NOW!
    Just kidding, please take your time. Can't wait to see some communist insurgents too.
  9. ironmask

    ironmask Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Mar 10, 2018
    Making this a prequel to New Vegas is a bad idea. Just follow the documents.
  10. Hardboiled Wanderer

    Hardboiled Wanderer I'm just here for the guzzoline...

    Apr 24, 2016
    Let's say there used to be such ideas a long time ago, but it turned out to be impossible to fit New Vegas lore. Looking back now, it really was a bad idea.

    Our Van Buren is intended to be more of sequel to Fallout 2 rather than prequel to New Vegas. The goal is to implement the original design as close as possible.
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  11. wanamingo89790

    wanamingo89790 First time out of the vault

    Dec 13, 2018
    Do you need writers
  12. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Ah that is good to hear.
    To be honest I was a bit disappointed when you mentioned that you wanted to tie New Vegas into it.
    Not that I hate New Vegas but I would much rather see Van Buren as Black Isle had intended it.

    What will be changed?
  13. Kamui

    Kamui First time out of the vault

    Nov 20, 2017
    Popped in just to say the creators twitter account was deleted after it came to light that hes been ripping assets not just from New Vegas, but stealing assets from a mod project for New Vegas called Way of the Chosen. Some known mod authors called him out on this, and were subsequently blocked. Now the account seems to be gone
    I wouldn't get yourhopes up that anything will end up coming out of this. Van Buren curse continues.
  14. Hardboiled Wanderer

    Hardboiled Wanderer I'm just here for the guzzoline...

    Apr 24, 2016
    Let me correct you. I deleted the account myself. You are totally wrong when stating I use NV assets, that's simply not true. And about stealing - one of their members gave me their assets. Frankly, it's not my problem they can't watch after their own crew. My crime, however, was that I used 4, or make it, 5 assets from this bunch without asking the leads. When confronted, I lied that these assets are not theirs. I was a fool. I admit it, and I'm taking a fall for it right now, even thanks to likes such as yourself who spit half-true gossips around without even knowing what really happened. I can't continue the project with this on my back. It's my fault, I screwed up, and I accepted the consequences. Even though I stated an apology to the relevant persons, and it was, sort of, not-even-half-way accepted, I know people will remember and I would always have this portrait of a scumbag. Furthermore, I can't let the community insult my crew members like it did in last few hours just because they fucking know me. If there's one to be blamed and hunted, it's me, not them. So that's it. Project is discontinued. I'm sorry.
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  15. Proletären

    Proletären Mildly Dipped

    Mar 15, 2012
    Damn! That's a shame.

    Why would people be so greedy with their assets? Wouldn't it be better for the Fallout community if they were available to all? That greed just got this project cancelled.
  16. Hardboiled Wanderer

    Hardboiled Wanderer I'm just here for the guzzoline...

    Apr 24, 2016
    No, don't blame them. I've done a bad thing, not them. It may look like an overkill for a few actually totally generic assets, but the righteousness is on their side, I can't deny that. This project is canceled, but that does not mean Van Buren is dead.
  17. airisactuallyacid

    airisactuallyacid First time out of the vault

    Jun 23, 2019
    So is all that hard work just down the drain now? I know it's a tragedy with what happened but surely there must be a way to salvage some assets to help keep the Van Buren dream alive.
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  18. Hardboiled Wanderer

    Hardboiled Wanderer I'm just here for the guzzoline...

    Apr 24, 2016
    While I deserve all that hate I was given until I disappeared from virtual space, I can't imagine to continue to work with it. And it's not about me, it's about my team mates as well. I appreciate your support and I understand you don't get this harsh reaction of mine, but I had no choice and I think you would do the same after seeing what I saw from the community. I simply can't continue. Believe me, it hurts me much more than you or anyone else. But, it's done, and there's no way back.
  19. Negativity

    Negativity Take a dirt nap

    Oct 19, 2017
    Damn, I sent you a private message on twitter offering help with the games character creation system, but I guess it got lost in the Fallout (no pun intended.) Your work was looking good too, so it's a shame you can't carry on. Good luck in the future!
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  20. FortAbandoned

    FortAbandoned First time out of the vault

    Jul 24, 2019
    Had to create an account to write this because I am absolutely shocked. Reading this was heartbreaking as a long time admirer of the Van Buren concept since it was leaked in 2005 and by extension this entire project. This was the third (and in my opinion the most promising) public project I've witnessed that came and went which could've finally given us the Fallout that die hard fans were long waiting for, and furthermore it's personally my most desired cancelled game of all time. I still remember following every piece of available media related to this project anticipating the next update with dedicated excitement since it seemed so encouraging that maybe someday we may have a chance for something that many considered was never meant to be. As a matter of fact, I can't even remember when I was so enthusiastic about an upcoming game when considering what Bethesda has done to the franchise.

    Maybe this isn't my place to discuss this, but I have read enough from the related twitter and discord posts to carry my own opinions on the matter. Judging by what I gathered from the Molten Clouds team, it's clear their reaction to what happened is appropriately warranted and completely understandable. I more than wish that I could consider the situation excusable if civil diplomacy had been established rather than such an aggressive approach and unprofessional hostility that brought us to the circumstances we're in now.

    After that, I can understand why you may not want to continue the project after this ordeal, I'll admit I see no justifiable way to condone for these irrational executive decisions in the immediate future. But your attempts to bring a long dead project people still yearn for today were still both extremely aspiring and promising, and it would be a tragedy for it all to go to waste. You have justifiably earned the anger and distrust from a significant amount of people, and that can never be undone. However I, and I'm certain plenty of others, could potentially forgive these actions if there was evidential proof of acknowledged amendment through revisions from these fraudulent choices and genuine authenticity in your subsequent work as atonement. Which I would consider the most mature and practical redeeming method to rectify this incident rather than shut down the project entirely.

    if you sincerely believe you have no other alternative for continuing and decide to permanently withdraw from this project:
    I would ask you one thing from all of this. Which is that I will implore, perhaps go so far as to beg you to please attempt to speak with an experienced crew member with an earnest, competent reputation or an equally skilled willing participant to gather the two years of original work you produced so it would not go to waste. From there, they could pick up where you left off as project manager and they themselves can guide the project into a legitimate, honest, and reputable product. There are countless of eager Unity3D-savvy supporters that would love to participate and see the game to completion and would be equally disheartened to see this project simply die like another “Fallhope” or “A Fallout RPG Adventure”. It won't matter how many years it'd have to take even with corners no longer being cut, for there'd finally be a semblance of a chance after 17 years of empty promises and failed proposals.

    If anyone would be punished the most from this decision, it would be the entire loyal fan community that'd have to wait another decade just to watch another prospective attempt try and fall victim again to the "Van Buren Curse", even if you no longer have personal attachment, I plead that you share this dream with a new team so this project won't end up just like them, there is too much promising potential for this to just end right now.
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