Rockin' out with Daesch

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Jun 9, 2008.

  1. Daesch

    Daesch First time out of the vault

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    May 24, 2008
    Not big enough now but, several hundred years from now? Who knows. I never played that game myself, however, I have found references to Los being a port. If it is a port, I am curious as to how long it took to get from Carbon to Los as Carbon is a long way away from the Gulf of Mexico.
     
  2. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Yes, there is a port, that is why I thought they meant Los Angeles.
    You are given the impression it is a big metropolis.
     
  3. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Apr 3, 2003
    Yes.

    That invalidates what I just said...how, exactly?
     
  4. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    I talked to Jason Anderson a bit more and he said:

    So it is probably best to move Necropolis to where it is in the game after all.

    How about Broken Hills, though?

    There is no world map in FOBOS, and I doubt it's actually said anywhere.
     
  5. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Apr 3, 2003
    It makes a fair amount of sense to *not* move around places based on a supposition that they're in same spot of a ghost town without anything in the game supporting that supposition.
     
  6. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    Good point.

    By the way, I wonder why we're analyzing FOBOS as if it made any sense.
     
  7. whirlingdervish

    whirlingdervish Brahmin Cavalry Commander

    Jul 3, 2007
    They should seriously consider changing the sign off the side of the 15 freeway to say:

    Barstow: More Fitting For Ghouls!

    At least I'd get a kick out of it, and perhaps I'd have some reason to stop in Barstow on my way to the river, other than eating at what may be the best Del Taco restaurant anywhere.
     
  8. iridium_ionizer

    iridium_ionizer Mildly Dipped

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    Jul 24, 2007
    Just north of Barstow on I-15 is the town of Baker. It is even smaller than Barstow, of course that may be a good thing since at least it has a small town in a desert feel compared to Barstow's small suburb in a desert feel. Anyway Baker is supposedly the home to the World's Tallest Thermometer.

    It would make a great special encounter in a Fallout 1 mod.
     
  9. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Guess it would be best to remove all references to that game then.
     
  10. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

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    Jan 12, 2004
    God, looking at those maps really sends home how much Bethesda is dropping the ball. We're not gonna learn anything about the East Coast besides what's going on in DC. I've been there a few times and saw everything there is to see in the seven mile stretch of DC's center. A block or 2 away from the green it all turns to slums. I'd love to see a post nuclear New Haven, CT, or Rhode Island, fucking New York City. How about the Gulf Coast? Nope. Everyone gives Bethesda credit for big open exploration while forgetting Fallout 1 and 2 are like galaxies compared to their bullshit games.
     
  11. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    Aside from DC, Fallout 3 will also cover parts of Maryland and Virginia.
     
  12. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

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    Jan 12, 2004
    Yeah, but that's like if Fallout 1 ended at Shady Sands and Vault 15.
     
  13. Slaughter Manslaught

    Slaughter Manslaught Vault Senior Citizen

    Dec 11, 2006
    That's true. Although I can see the whole small area angle in DC, I mean, I think the game area is too small, SPECIALLY with the Megaton Nuke sitting so near Washington. Blowing a nuke (you can see the explosion from D.C) so near would probrably devastate the entire region with the Radiactive Fallout. Wahoo, way to kill the game world, moron!

    Also, it kinda takes out the "desolation" feeling in the wasteland and the survival angle. Why would I need to drink toilet water and eat corpses if the nearest settlement is just some hours of distance by walking? And we aren't going to have a car, which, frankly, sucks. Where I am going to tuck away my stuff, now?
     
  14. Dougly

    Dougly It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 13, 2007
    I tend to agree.

    Major cities on the east coast, aside from Washington D.C.:

    Baltimore
    Philadelphia
    Pittsburgh
    New York
    Boston

    Those are just a few, of course. And, in addittion to the major cities, you have, on the east coast, places of "interest" like Gettysburg, PA, etc, where it might be interesting to see what's going on "after the war."

    I have no idea how "large" a game area we'd have if F3 were comparable to F1 and F2 in that regard. However, I assume we'd be able to reach some of those places, even if we started out in D.C.

    Instead, we'll spend the game trapped in the D.C. area.
     
  15. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    BTW, what about Redding? It's also in the wrong place in FO2, but I wouldn't move it to the FO2 location on the map, since it's a real town that appears in the game under its real name.
     
  16. aenemic

    aenemic Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jun 4, 2008
    but what is it that matters? the theoretical size of the game map, as suggested by the locations you visit, or the actual space in which you play the game? yes, Fallout 1 stretched over a much wider area but you still only had a few not-that-big locations to visit, with nothing at all in between them.
     
  17. Ammut

    Ammut First time out of the vault

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    Jun 24, 2007
    I had no clue you were a Seahawks fan, Brother None!
     
  18. piv

    piv First time out of the vault

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    Jun 10, 2008
    It's possible that I am mistaken but I think that recording to those maps, Shady Sands is in the middle of Nevata Test Site, a place where nearly 1000 nukes were detonated...



    Tried to align those two.

    Red dots are F1 map locations.
    Coastline fits in 90 %
     
  19. dotz

    dotz First time out of the vault

    55
    Apr 3, 2006
    Coastline could be pretty well changed and devastated by new unstable environmental and tectonic factors, especially at rivers' mouths. (Once again: Geez! genuine maps)
     
  20. piv

    piv First time out of the vault

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    Jun 10, 2008


    Coastline match, mountains match, terrain match

    Red dots - F1 map locations

    Blue dots - F2 locations according to the coastline and terrain reference
    Yellow dots - F2 locations according to V13, SS/NCR and V15 reference.