The Male Sole Survivor from Fallout 4 is Canonically a War Criminal

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Kilus, Apr 13, 2024.

  1. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    I would have respected him if he had doubled down. But that would mean actually understanding the world and feel of fallout.
     
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  2. Norzan

    Norzan So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Apr 7, 2017
    Morally ambiguous characters that do actions that might be considered bad by people is far too much for Bethesda, every player character they make has to be a goody two shoes that follows the moral code of the real world.
     
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  3. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    Maybe I should replay Fo4 after all. Love that attention to detail in the lore.
     
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  4. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    Someone needs to create a new gif!
     
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  5. Blastwave Dave

    Blastwave Dave First time out of the vault

    55
    Sep 12, 2021
    Honestly would have been one of the cleverest bits of writing, if you can call it that, Emil has come up with. It's a shame he is a coward and backpedaled because people couldn't handle the idea that the protagonist probably did some fucked up stuff in this funny little thing called WAR!

    It would actually make more sense as to why you could play Nate as a bit of a psychopath OR a good guy. Is he a father who has done bad things in the war, desperately trying to make up for his past misdeeds in a world gone mad? Or is he a mad dog, barely held back by the laws of the world, and now that those are gone he has a chance to cut loose?

    Oh no Twitter is mad that I had a bit of moral grayness in my story oh fuck oh shit no Nate was a heccing good boy who didn't do nothing everybody he was nice the whole time and tried to broker peace with the Canadian civilians okay!?
     
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  6. Millim

    Millim Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Orderite [REDACTED]

    Oct 13, 2010
    Can we not go into these creepy kill fantasies because he committed the crime of not being a great writer please?

    Like I get it, at the same time, it's creepy to go this into attacking someone.
     
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  7. Mirin Lurker

    Mirin Lurker It Wandered In From the Wastes

    132
    Oct 25, 2022
    I can't believe I'm getting lectured for edgy humor on here of all places.
     
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  8. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Carbon Dated and Proud

    Sep 17, 2016
    NMA has benefited from reigning in some of the worst elements of its past. There's no actual [censored] anymore.

    Yeah, you know who I mean. The actual fucking [censored].

    Wait, they censor the word word [censor]?

    [censor]

    :)
     
  9. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    hm

    are you just fucking with me? CT?
     
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  10. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    i mean you say that but the elder scrolls is one of the most morally ambiguous series i can think of with maybe the exception of oblivion
     
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  11. Millim

    Millim Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Orderite [REDACTED]

    Oct 13, 2010
    There's a difference between edgy and just being a cunt.
     
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  12. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Skyrim wasn't all that ambiguous either, I think. They always allow you to play an evil character, but post Morrowind their main quests at least have been fairly streamlined to be very lawful good.
    But Morrowind let you do some funky shit to get through the main quest, actually forces you to do some questionable shit. Come to think of it, the whole main quest is "fake it till you make it". Good stuff, but all the fellas who made Morrowind good left afterwards.
     
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  13. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    theres plenty of morally incomprhensible shit in skyrim from my memory especially in the thalmor, civil war, stormcloak bullshit
     
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  14. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    But there is also some rather bad stuff in Oblivion then. Side quests can always be bad. Thought it was about the main quests since that's more fixed and isn't optional.
     
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  15. 5545Trey

    5545Trey Underground Deviant

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    Jun 25, 2014
    April Fool's was two weeks ago. In all seriousness, though, it's baffling how Emil — lead writer at Bethesda, doesn't seem to realize just how bad it makes him look when he pulls dumb stunts like this to get a rise out of people who hate the continued bastardization of Fallout and its lore.
     
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  16. Norzan

    Norzan So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Apr 7, 2017
    What was his end goal? To look cool? Because it's hilarious that the actual fans of his games got pissed. Maybe he should refrain for attempting to add lore when he's on twitter, shit didn't worked very well for J.K Rowling.
     
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  17. hexer

    hexer It's PJ! Modder

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    Dec 7, 2013
    I've always been bothered by this type of “lore” where every minor world-building detail gets exaggerated, making it seem more significant than it really is. What's next? The Corvega car seen on TV during the intro being the same one at the Junktown entrance? Or Mr. Handy from the commercial turning out to be the exact same robot found at the Military Base? It's not good and shrinks the vastness of the Fallout universe.
     
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  18. Ulysses (Courier 5)

    Ulysses (Courier 5) First time out of the vault

    19
    Nov 11, 2022
    Agreed 100%, But this just goes to show how dumb Emil is when even the Bethesda fans of fallout are fighting back. :rofl:
     
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  19. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    Emil and Todd aren't totally mad and truly respect the history of the franchise, to suggest otherwise is just hogwash. . .
     
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  20. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos Vault Senior Citizen

    May 12, 2020
    Honestly I thought it was in poor taste, but yeah, I can’t imagine anyone would actually take you seriously.
    There really isn’t. One man’s cunt is another man’s…where was I going with this…
     
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