The Power Armor dilemma in New Vegas

Discussion in 'Fallout: New Vegas Gameplay & Tech' started by Alexander Strahan, Oct 25, 2010.

  1. sea

    sea Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 5, 2009
    The only power armour I have seen in the game so far has been NCR soldiers at Hoover Dam. The way I see it is this: power armour wasn't particularly rare or hard to get in Fallout 1, provided you went to the right place. You can get some pretty early in the game if you make a dash for the Hub and/or the Brotherhood, and in Fallout 2 you can always save up your money and buy it in San Francisco. I've seen a grand total of two people in power armour in New Vegas - if you don't mind killing someone for it, then sure, you can get it early, but unless you get lucky or head right to one of the few guaranteed locations, you probably won't find it for at least the first half of the game.
     
  2. Hartigan

    Hartigan First time out of the vault

    55
    Nov 23, 2005
    . . . and even if you find it quickly, there's still that PA Training perk needed. [spoiler:6457a1cb3c]Right now I'm kind of undecided whether I'd like to kill the whole Brotherhood (will be a real pain in the ass, I guess) and loot all of their stuff or to leave them as they are. I heard there's some related quest later in the game where you have to double-cross them anyway so getting rid of the whole bunker seems like a fair idea to me (always wanted to do it in the original Fo but I'd never cope with the feeling of guilt that'd haunt me through the rest of the game). :)[/spoiler:6457a1cb3c]
     
  3. DForge

    DForge Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    343
    Jul 29, 2006
    You must be kidding. Speedrunning to San Francisco to talk to BoS and then going to navarro still at level 1-2 to get Advanced Power Armor lying unprotected in a locker needed ANY work towards it? Not counting reloading after bumping into Enclave patrol on the way.

    If anything, Fallout 2 was the worst in terms of powerful weapons/armor distribution. Hell, even if you did not went to Navarro early, you could still get Gauss Rifle in NCR by super-stimpacking the sheriff.
     
  4. Nuka-X

    Nuka-X It Wandered In From the Wastes

    112
    Oct 9, 2010
    Well, drop F2 from the list but doing all that isn't too much for the fun of playing the game.
     
  5. 13pm

    13pm Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    830
    Apr 10, 2007
    I gave him Brotherhood t-45b and he threw it away. Which I noticed quite far away. That was an unexpected thing. Then I found out that companions just eventually throw away the armor they're unable to wear. Which really pissed me off at some points.
     
  6. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    He can't wear Brotherhood armor because he isn't aligned to that faction, so he simply refuses. He can wear NCR's power armor or non-aligned PA.

    Yeah, companions throw away faction armor if they're unable or unwilling to wear it, which means ED-E can carry any armor except faction armor, she can't carry any of that. There's a message that pops in on their inability to wear it, though, so you should really just pay more attention ;)

    And how many people do you think did either on their first playthrough without any instructions from the internet or friends? Just because the world is open and thus open to exploits doesn't mean it is in the game's natural course for a player to step into power armor very early, which is in fact the case in Fallout 3, which throws both PA and PA training at you in the main quest. A pretty obvious difference, dude.
     
  7. 13pm

    13pm Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    830
    Apr 10, 2007
    Yeah, I saw that message, but throwing it away just for not being able to wear it? That was somehow... unexpected =)

    Well, back on topic, I got my T-51b quite early after doing quests for BoS and repaired it with other pieces found. So I had to reapair it for money only once a bit before the final battle.
     
  8. Ausdoerrt

    Ausdoerrt I should set a custom tit

    Oct 28, 2008
    It's pretty stupid if you ask me. Carrying faction armor gets really tedious this way.

    Yeah, seriously. For that matter, one could theoretically find PA in NV as soon as you get a stealthboy, to sneak your way past deathclaws and get a set of PA and APA.
     
  9. Alphadrop

    Alphadrop A right proper chap.

    Aug 21, 2008
    NV Nexus has a few mods up that get around that like some this one.
     
  10. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    Well, npcs throw it away, because else they would wear it in some cases. The engine can't tell the npc what armor to wear and what not... if the armor has better stats than their default, they will use it.
     
  11. Jet1337

    Jet1337 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    195
    Aug 27, 2009
    Just got my Remnants PA and I'm a walking tank now. xD

    I went to Freeside and some dumbass hits me in the back with a lead pipe. My Multiplas Rifle said hello. :)
     
  12. Ausdoerrt

    Ausdoerrt I should set a custom tit

    Oct 28, 2008
    I'm not big on mods, especially for new games, unless they are bugfixes or restoration projects of some sort.
     
  13. probably_not_a_mutie

    probably_not_a_mutie First time out of the vault

    57
    Oct 27, 2010
    can this be confirmed
     
  14. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    Please don't take out spoiler tags when quoting, that's a part of the main questline. That said

    [spoiler:b148f39d5e]You are asked to take care of the BoS by the NCR and House if you follow those questlines, yes. You can negotiate a truce if you're working for the NCR. Dunno about House. I had to kill em in both cases because their quest bugged out and I couldn't talk to the Elder anymore[/spoiler:b148f39d5e]
     
  15. Kallisti

    Kallisti First time out of the vault

    38
    Apr 9, 2010
    [spoiler:9980d74223]There is no option for a truce on the House questline that I can find, you can't bring it up with the elder at least[/spoiler:9980d74223]
     
  16. probably_not_a_mutie

    probably_not_a_mutie First time out of the vault

    57
    Oct 27, 2010
    then thank god i'm NCR and proud (remember kill legion with EXTREME predjicduce)
     
  17. probably_not_a_mutie

    probably_not_a_mutie First time out of the vault

    57
    Oct 27, 2010
    ypu are badass
     
  18. aguds

    aguds First time out of the vault

    24
    Oct 20, 2010
    I went to hidden valley with my newly aquired 100 lockpick skill to open that door I was curious about early-game.

    [spoiler:001bca9cb5]Down there was a BoS dude telling me to go do this and that to a NCR-ranger, and slapped a goddamn slave-collar on me!

    Now, I'm very friendly to the NCR, and that guy was also beeing an ass. Of course, the only reasonable thing to do was to go back and murder the entire base..

    But after that I suddenly thought of PA-training, and where to get it now.. I read on the wiki that you can get it from Arcade Gannon - does anyone have experience with that? Is it hard? Very late-game perhaps?[/spoiler:001bca9cb5]
     
  19. Texas Renegade

    Texas Renegade Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    390
    Aug 21, 2008
    I bought some T45d power armor off of the great khan armorer at like level 16 or 17 that Boone wears just fine.
     
  20. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    [spoiler:4c68c30a86]It's not late game. But you have to unlock his personal quest "Auld lang syne", which means he has to trust you. Travel with him to high-tech locations (REPCONN, Van Graffs), take him to the Fort in the main quest and tell him you hate Caesar, be liked by the Followers of the Apocalypse.
    One of the Enclave guys can train you once you picked a side for them to support.[/spoiler:4c68c30a86]