A Postapo Diploma Work (assistance appreciated:)

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by DrapiChrust, Jun 25, 2010.

  1. DrapiChrust

    DrapiChrust First time out of the vault

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    Nov 26, 2009
    Hey there
    I'm currently making (read: desperately finishing to make it in time) a rather dull diploma work on english linguistics. The topic is the word "end" and it semantic field (no, you do not need to know what the hell does that mean ;D).

    Without beating around the bush: I need a little help. A very simple thing. All you have to do is to answer these questions:
    (yeah, the question is kinda stupid and most answers rather obvious, but I NEED to have some feedback from english users to support my thesis)

    I. Can (in your opinion) the following phrases mean "The end of the world":
    1. Armaggedon
    2. Apocalypse
    3. Ragnarok
    4. Last Judgement/ Judgement Day
    5. End time/End times/End of days (that's from scientology 8))
    6. Doom
    7. Doomsday

    II Are (in your opinion) the following phrases synonymous to the noun "end":
    1. Armaggedon
    2. Apocalypse
    3. Ragnarok
    4. Last Judgement/ Judgement Day
    5. End time/End times/End of days (that's still from scientology ;D)
    6. Doom
    7. Doomsday


    (note: "synonymous" means that you can make ANY sentence in which changing a word does not change the meaning. If you consider that sentences:
    "Spears of nuclear fire rained from the skies and brought an end to us all"
    "Spears of nuclear fire rained from the skies and brought us the Apocalypse"
    If you think that those sentences mean the same, then for you "end" and "Apocalypse" are synonymous. Simple, right?)


    How to answer:

    [spoiler:fa93de496c]Anyhow. You can PM me, you can post it here. You can write:

    I 1yes/no 2yes/no(...)
    II 1yes/no (...)

    you can write:
    "yes, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no / yes, no yes no (...)

    hell, you can even write "all yes"" or "all no"[/spoiler:fa93de496c]

    Just remember to state if you are a native english speaker or not. If you are not, please, answer those questions. If english IS your native language, please answer those questions, then persuade your girlfiend into answering them, then your parents, siblings, neighbours, your friends, and your dog... (if he reacts to "heel" we can assume he is speaking english, right? :D

    Why the hell do I need that
    [spoiler:fa93de496c]I've picked linguistics 'cos I didn't really had a choice :-[ I picked 'end' 'cos I thought it can be interesting. And then I started writing and realised that NO GODDAMN DICTIONARY MENTIONS ANY LINKS BETWEEN THE "END" OR "END OF THE WORLD" AND OUR BELOVED ARMAGGEDONS AND APOCALYPSES!!!!!111ONEONEONE... Heck, to write anything about what I like I have to have some proof that such connection exist. Help me prove it (or prove me I'm wrong).
    [/spoiler:fa93de496c]
    And thanks. :)

    EDIT:
    Some people (no, not on NMA) were arguing about what is a synonym and what isn't, so I put everywhere this:

     
  2. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    I. Yes
    II. No
     
  3. Sicblades

    Sicblades Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Aug 28, 2008
    I. Yes
    II. No
     
  4. NO PM FOR YOU!

    I. Yes
    II. No



    HAHA VOIDED EXPERIMENT, BECAUSE WE WILL ALL CHOOSE THAT OPTION NOW ACCORDING TO THE PERSON ABOVE US!

    AHAHAHAHAAHAH
     
  5. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    I. Yes, except for doom
    II. No

    Doom is like being sentenced of consigned to fate, it's not necessarily an end or death.

    Those other phrases evoke a very specific scenario.


    And I speak native, unga bunga.
     
  6. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    I. No (I tend to interpret 'doom' completely different)

    II. No

    I am not a native speaker.
     
  7. DrapiChrust

    DrapiChrust First time out of the vault

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    Nov 26, 2009
    Ooooooops... :o PEOPLE, SPEAK YOUR OWN MIND!!!
    ---
    Some people (no, not on NMA) were arguing about what is a synonym and what isn't, so I put everywhere this:

     
  8. TheWesDude

    TheWesDude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 25, 2005
    1)

    per your question including the word "can" then the only logical answer is yes. anyone who answers differently failed to read the question.

    2)

    no, each comes from a different culture and while the end point for the concept of each is the same, the methods of how they get there are different. the ending of each concept is the same, destruction of human civilization/race but the methods differ. each has their own specific connotation.
     
  9. Verevoof

    Verevoof Cryptid oTO Moderator Orderite

    Jul 12, 2009
    I. Yes

    II. No. If a sentence has the word "end," as in "We are nearing the end of the list." you couldn't really change "end" with either of those words. "We are nearing the apocalypse of the list," has a much more threatening connotation and implies something more than just the list is over.

    I am a native English speaker.
     
  10. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Admin

    May 27, 2004
    I. Yes for all, except for "doom" which is No
    II. No

    And English is my third language.
     
  11. Blakut

    Blakut Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 9, 2008
    I'm too drunk to answer but Doom is not synonimous to end. THere at least no. The others i can't understand as i am drunk.
     
  12. DrapiChrust

    DrapiChrust First time out of the vault

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    Nov 26, 2009
    HAHAHA

    Dammit Blakut, you've just made my day! (except that it is a middle of the night out here :wink: )
     
  13. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    Can I still change my answer or have you already turned me into some statistic?
     
  14. DrapiChrust

    DrapiChrust First time out of the vault

    30
    Nov 26, 2009
    Ooops, sory Alec, I should've check the tread more often...
    Unfortunetely, you've been turned into some statistic like 5 minutes ago, sorry once again....


    And thanks guys, your stubborn "I yes, II no" technique really affected the outcome of this questionnaire, and the partly also the conclusions of my thesis. You can feel proud of yourself :P

    Thanks once again :)
     
  15. TheWesDude

    TheWesDude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 25, 2005
    drapi, i hope you went into the sad state of education due to the # of people who said "no" to #1 because while doom may not mean end of the world to the person, but it can mean that to people.


    of course it is YOUR fault for not providing an exact and precise question, but the people who answered the question and said no obviously are not widely read, or read a dictionary, or are posessing of any kind of higher intelligence :)
     
  16. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    If the purpose of the test was to expose pretentious twats, it's an undeniable success.
     
  17. Blakut

    Blakut Vault Senior Citizen

    Jan 9, 2008
    Someone needs to learn what a synonym is...
     
  18. SerbianWarrior

    SerbianWarrior It Wandered In From the Wastes

    100
    Jun 30, 2010
    well for 1 yes
    for 2 no because doom does not necessarily mean the end of the world.
    love the topic for your diploma :D
     
  19. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Admin

    May 27, 2004
    If this paltry list of responses in any way shaped the outcome of your survey and part of your thesis, you did a fucking ridiculously bad job at collecting a decent sample and doing sufficient resources for your thesis...
     
  20. TheWesDude

    TheWesDude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 25, 2005
    the problem is, in the english language there are far fewer actual synonyms than you think.

    much fewer.

    most words called "synonyms" are not actually that, but rather words that mean close to but not exactly.

    the specific words you use actually have different connotations and degrees of significance.