Discussion in 'Fallout: New Vegas Discussion' started by Lepidus, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. Lepidus

    Lepidus First time out of the vault

    Jun 22, 2008
    Recently, I checked the Fallout wikia site, and noticed that J E Sawyer was a part of the Van Buren project. Since he is the team leader, I thought that the game might resemble a more traditional Fallout role-playing game. This gave me great hope for the game, and great hope that we might receive a game superior to Fallout 3 that will be more like a true successor to the original games. Did anybody else feel this way? In general, are people's attitudes towards this game more negative or positive?
  2. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
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    Jul 5, 2003
    Given that there is barely any information out it is tough to say.

    Given that it is Obsidian, I'd say that the attitude is very carefully and skeptically optimistic.
  3. SRN

    SRN First time out of the vault

    Nov 19, 2008
    Yeah, I wouldn't say that I'm totally optimistic towards the project but my hopes are certainly more up and I'm in happier spirits towards New Vegas than I was towards Beth designed Fallout 3.
  4. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    Wary optimism is probably the best descriptor.

    - Obsidian as the leading deep AAA RPG developer
    - J.E. Sawyer

    - Fallout 3 engine and mechanics
    - Obsidian as the consistent buggy release studio
  5. NFSreloaded

    NFSreloaded Still Mildly Glowing

    May 5, 2009
    I wasn't very happy to read that ''it will be in the same style as Fallout 3'' and that it ''will be available on the PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3''. So, I TRY (it's hard for me to suppress optimism) to consider it as yet another lukewarm ported spin-off and when the game turns out to be great I'll be extra happy. ;)
  6. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
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    Jul 5, 2003
    I'd be hoping that they can clear up the mess that Fallout 3's mechanics were, and make different character builds actually different.
    That's about the best you can expect from them, mechanics-wise, given that they're working with the Fallout 3 engine.
  7. bhlaab

    bhlaab Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Oct 30, 2008
    It's going to play like Fallout 3, hopefully improved.

    JE Sawyer seems to know what he's doing. But what can you say, Obsidian's no Troika.
  8. SRN

    SRN First time out of the vault

    Nov 19, 2008
    Agreed. However, I think (or more hope) that with Sawyer and other wisemen of RPG behind I hope that New Vegas can fulfill the need for a decent and well-tailored Fallout 3, instead of current shitty one we have.
  9. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    Well, this will most probably be better than F3, but other than that i'm not sure what to expect :?
  10. PastaMasta

    PastaMasta Mildly Dipped

    Sep 25, 2008
    Man, I trust Obsidian that they wont fuck it up. At least its on the west coast again so anything could happen. Plus I'd like to see the Vipers and the Khans. Anything can happen.
  11. dfroe

    dfroe First time out of the vault

    Jun 28, 2009

    - Obsidian latest title 'ALPHA PROTOCOL' looks like console crap
  12. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    Yes, but that's hardly relevant.

    Unlike Bethesda or BioWare, who can only do one type of game, Obsidian has proven it can do different types of games, while all RPGs, different kinds of RPGs with different approaches to the genre. It doesn't do them all well, but there's no reason to assume Alpha Protocol is a significant shift from Mask of the Betrayer, rather than just a different take on the genre than MotB.
  13. LoyLoy

    LoyLoy First time out of the vault

    Jun 27, 2009
    I just want 1 FO game where its all about the side quest and role-playing and non of this 3D can't they just make a 2D FO for the fans and give it a working title loke Fallout: Revised or Fallout 2.5 something like that.

    If that day ever comes it will bring tears to my eyes

    as for New Vegas...... not really hoping much but i do miss picking a Traits at the start. are all the original writers from FO 1-2 in FO: New Vegas or just some?
  14. bhlaab

    bhlaab Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Oct 30, 2008
    Errr, probably closer to none-ish?
  15. LoyLoy

    LoyLoy First time out of the vault

    Jun 27, 2009
    If so then I can only hope it stays true to how the game should be.... *sighs*
  16. Dreadwolf

    Dreadwolf First time out of the vault

    Oct 24, 2007
    I'm trying hard to not expect anything from this title.
    Even tho I enjoyed Kotor 2, it obviously had serious issues towards the end.
    I guess it will be better in regards to dialog, story and think that Obsidian will at least be able to make a somewhat coherent world.

    So it boils down to: "I guess, it will make (at least some) sense." ,

    but I doubt that this title will interest me enought to pick it up.
    (Would gladly be proven wrong on that)

    I wonder, if Obisidan's New Vegas will get the same treatment and "Free Pass" for criticism by the Bethesda-fanboys & reviewers as Fallout3.
  17. ZombieSupaStar

    ZombieSupaStar First time out of the vault

    Nov 5, 2007
    I'm excited for it, we get the engine to make a pretty immersive world. Say what you will about the other aspects of Fallout 3, when it was done right I felt more immersed in first person going though stuff in Fallout 3, than I did in the old isometric view.

    If they can fix special, BALANCE the damn XP gain. Unmodded its just ridiculous. Now with all the dlc the whole damn game needs to be rebalanced, I really don't think they planned ahead, or had no clue on how game flow was gonna work. Because Fallout 3 starts out trying to be "Black Isle'd" by sticking skill checks here and there but that largely goes out the window when you no longer have to min/max anything and can be master of all around level 18, and definitely by 30. Its like they started out trying to stay nearer to Fallout and then just went "aw fuckit lets go Oblivion in here!"

    So hopefully Obsidian can plan ahead, I know the writing will be better, but I don't know if the animation will be that great. Does Obsidian have anyone from Troika? IMO Vampire: Bloodlines still has the best voice acting, and facial animations, I've seen in a PC game. A lot probably had to do with the lip sync tech that is in the source engine, but it still was pretty incredible.

    I have more faith in Fallout: N.V., than Alpha Protocol.... I'm still siting on KoToR 2 unplayed, waiting for Team Gizka to finish their restoration project.
  18. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    JE Sawyer mentioned rebalancing weapons on his twitter. Hopefully some other mechanics will also be rebalanced.
  19. Ravager69

    Ravager69 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 21, 2007
    Hey, it's not Bethesda making it, so I am damn happy.

    Obsidian, their problems aside (bugs being the most annoying), is capable of pulling off at least decent games. Since there will be people from the original series involved, I bet they will work hard to finish, after all these years, the game they started so long ago.

    Because what other game they've been working on is worth the effort?
  20. F.E.V.DippedDoofus

    F.E.V.DippedDoofus First time out of the vault

    Jun 2, 2009
    That is the main reason I, for one, am still holding a skeptical opinion.

    NV uses the same engine as Fallout 3, are they going to improve on the bugs and the engine before they release their product? Or is it just going to feel like an entirely large DLC.

    That's another thing that bugs me, is New Vegas going to be hyped to Oblivion? (pun so freakin intended) Are real opinions/concerns going to be kept away from mainstream gaming sites?