Despite Bethesda's Flaws...

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by gangnerswin, Apr 12, 2016.

Do you agree?

  1. yeah

    10 vote(s)
    24.4%
  2. nah

    31 vote(s)
    75.6%
  1. Cooldawg86

    Cooldawg86 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    110
    Dec 25, 2015
    I think what Bethesda is doing is brilliant. They took an obscure rpg game and mad it for the casual dumb dumb. Ppl are just made but they weren't mad when Wolfenstein was dumbed down. *troll face*

    I feel it's at the point where it's an indies job to make those rpg for book readers and nerds. AAA is about splosions first and then substance if there is time.

    So yeah fallout 3 was brilliant for what it was. A sandbox hiking game.
     
  2. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Well, it's not. It's just a horrible 'game'. F4 didn't even resonate as much as Fallout 3 back in the day.
    Deus Ex: Invisible War was a disaster for example.
     
  3. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Lol this thread is a collection of trolls in one giant mess of a thread. They realized they won't be banned and are now multiplying and aggregating.

    Last I checked, Fallout 4 is still the lowest rated game ever made by Bethesda, and the lowest rated Fallout game ever made according to Steam. It is also the lowest rated Bethesda game and Fallout game according to Metacritic right after Fallout: BoS.
     
  4. Cooldawg86

    Cooldawg86 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    110
    Dec 25, 2015
    Won't stop people from playing. Fallout 4 is the room temperature glass of lemonade on a hot day. I does nothing for you but it's something. Right?
     
  5. Millim

    Millim The Big Straight Orderite

    Oct 13, 2010
    I didn't think Fallout 3 was too bad.
    I've already said enough about it, I've even stated my opinions on Video where I said that as a game, it works alright, but as a Fallout game, it's kind of forgettable.

    Fallout 4 is just plain bad. You could argue that it isn't, but you're lying to yourself.
    Your brain knows it's bad and it thinks you should too.
    The only thing stopping it is you.
     
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  6. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Yup. The whole "Fallout 4 isn't a bad game, it's just a bad Fallout game" is nothing more than mental gymnastics and rationalization. Even I tried to rationalize away this disaster when I was determined to like the game. But no, I gave it about 200 hours to be a good game and it's simply a lazy cash grab for ultra casuals.

    Fallout 4 is an insult even to Fallout 3 fans. We don't even need to get into the other Fallout games when discussing it's abhorrent design decisions. If you're a fan of any of the previous Fallout games, Fallout 4 was not made for you. If you happen to enjoy it anyway then that's great, but it's a coincidence. The game was made for ultra casuals who hate RPGs and never enjoyed Fallout. Made by people who brag about lacking the attention span for RPG dialogue.
     
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  7. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    People still talk about Fallout 4?
     
  8. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Scandals around bethesda makes people talk about Fallout 4. You know, terrible DLC content, mod thieves, Autumn Leaves vs Fap Harbor.
    By "gamurz", for "gamurz". :lmao:
     
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  9. Throatpunch

    Throatpunch Banned

    Apr 14, 2016
    I think Fallout should only be made for PC's so the scum on their peasant machines dont get any say in what the game is like, and we wouldn't Borderlands: Boston, Massachusets.
    Face it, Borderlands is what filthy peasants want, and Fallout 1, 2 and NV is what the PC master race and real Fallout fans want. If we banned filthy peasants from playing Fallout on their stupid machines, we would have good Fallout again!
    It would be a game for PC players and actual Fallout fans.

    Real Fallout fan


    Who Bethesda pander to:
     
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  10. GlowHound

    GlowHound Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    311
    Jun 12, 2008
    I honestly can't say I liked a lot of his art. Not for Fallout. It's why we got shitty, boxy laser weapons and baggy vault suits.
     
  11. Big No

    Big No Watch as I open and close this door

    634
    Oct 28, 2014
    I don't get how banning console players from Fallout would make it "good again". Bethesda would still make crappy games, it's not like a change in platform would give them a change of heart.
     
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  12. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    That's too much of ferocity for a real Fallout fan, typical for a console crowd (more specific - sonyfanboys). After all, New Vegas was released on consoles.
     
  13. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    It's not the platform that makes a game stupid, it's the developer.

    Bethesda's design philosophy for Fallout 4 was "let's make this our most dumbed down game of all time" and they sure succeeded.

    That said, their target is obviously consoles - just look at the user interfaces for their last two games lol.
     
  14. comscar

    comscar It Wandered In From the Wastes

    110
    Jul 8, 2009
    I liked his art, but I don't feel it was right for FO3. It was too much "diesel" or whatever the fuck subgenre you call it, and way too overdetailed. FO4 cleaned it up a bit and I think it resembled the earlier ones a bit more.
     
  15. Erich van Loon

    Erich van Loon Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    399
    May 23, 2016
    I used to think FO4 was good until I came to realization about it. I won't care if anyone else likes it, I mean I'm no SJW or anything like that.
     
  16. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    I've never understood why this is said to be a strong point of Bethesda. Tbh the only world They made that made any modicum of sense was vvardenfell. Then cyrodiil conflicted with past lore and therefore made little sense and was generic as all hell. Then the capital wasteland was boring And entirely nonsensical with some 'decent' atmosphere. Then skyrim's world space while technically varied was just mountains, forest mountains, and swampy mountains. Then the commonwealth was a less sensical
    version of the capital wasteland. Bethesda is horrible at world design.
     
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  17. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Humans are not the only Fans of Fallout. Here we see me testing TTW, Tale of Two Wombats:
     
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  18. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    You a wombat fan @Risewild?
     
  19. Cooldawg86

    Cooldawg86 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    110
    Dec 25, 2015
    I hope Bethesda buys Obsidian then It will finally all come together. They need each other.
     
  20. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Why? Obsideian makes better written, better designed, and more fun rpgs than Beth. What would obsidian gain from being bought by a company that is incapable of doing any of that?