Does the super sledge make any sense?

Hassknecht said:
Sure, it's certainly useful in the world of Fallout, either as a tool or a weapon. It's just not something I'd expect to see on a construction site (or anywhere) in the real world.
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Kind of funny how the Power Fist in F4 seems to take on a construction 'tool' design, yet it makes no sense to even have it when a sledgehammer does the same task, as well as the Power Fist specifically designed for Military combat.
 
Yeah, I guess they went for the "improvised" style for many weapons.
 
Zerginfestor said:
Kind of funny how the Power Fist in F4 seems to take on a construction 'tool' design, yet it makes no sense to even have it when a sledgehammer does the same task, as well as the Power Fist specifically designed for Military combat.
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Ever tried swinging a hammer in a narrow corridor?
 
I always thought it was a nod to the Warhammer 40k universe from my perspective. Since Fallout had big dudes in power armor and stuff.

But when you get down to it one would think that the super sledge (40 base attack F4/18-36 base Attack F2) has more range, and a bit more "omphf" than the power fist (20 base attack F4/12-24 base attack F2) due to the physics involved.
 
Einhanderc7 said:
I always thought it was a nod to the Warhammer 40k universe from my perspective. Since Fallout had big dudes in power armor and stuff.
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One doesn't preclude the other.

But when you get down to it one would think that the super sledge (40 base attack F4/18-36 base Attack F2) has more range, and a bit more "omphf" than the power fist (20 base attack F4/12-24 base attack F2) due to the physics involved.
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Weapon damage follows game logic. It's why you can bring a knife to a gun fight in the series and not get murdered instantly.
 
Tagaziel said:
One doesn't preclude the other.



Weapon damage follows game logic. It's why you can bring a knife to a gun fight in the series and not get murdered instantly.
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I always murdered those who brought a knife to my gun fight very quickly. Then again If you aim for the legs or groin they tend to drop like a pile of wet rags. At least in the originals.
 
Tagaziel said:
Ever tried swinging a hammer in a narrow corridor?
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Ever tried finding a narrow corridor that's illegally constructed to be that narrow and with a low ceiling? The very idea that using this thing for a Demolition crew is beyond idiotic. A Sledgehammer can take care of legally made construction and buildings, but anything that stronger than concrete or have doing mass demolition (such as an entire building), you use controlled explosions, you don't use a fucking power fist. Besides, the kinetic force needing to do such a task and placing it all on the human's arm and right behind the device is a fucking horrible idea. There's far better and logical tools to use in a narrow passageway than a POWER FIST for a demolition crew. It's just like the Fallout 4 Flamer, it's obviously meant for Industrial with it's design...but why? What fucking crew needs a Flamethrower to do their job?

I'm sorry, but I just can't see the point of a Power Fist be used in professional Demolition when a sledgehammer can do the exact same job, and controlled explosions bring better results.
 
Zerginfestor said:
Ever tried finding a narrow corridor that's illegally constructed to be that narrow and with a low ceiling? The very idea that using this thing for a Demolition crew is beyond idiotic. A Sledgehammer can take care of legally made construction and buildings, but anything that stronger than concrete or have doing mass demolition (such as an entire building), you use controlled explosions, you don't use a fucking power fist.
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I agree with you in general, but we're talking about a nation engaged in total war. Explosives used in construction are explosives not going to the war effort.

Besides, the kinetic force needing to do such a task and placing it all on the human's arm and right behind the device is a fucking horrible idea. There's far better and logical tools to use in a narrow passageway than a POWER FIST for a demolition crew.
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Psh, who cares about worker's health? Are you some sort of Chinese communist pinko unAmerican infiltrator saboteur?

It's just like the Fallout 4 Flamer, it's obviously meant for Industrial with it's design...but why? What fucking crew needs a Flamethrower to do their job?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamethrower#Other_uses

Radiation-resistant lining can be applied like the APP mentioned in the article. Or removing foliage. The pre-War world wasn't ecology-conscious, that much is clear.

I'm sorry, but I just can't see the point of a Power Fist be used in professional Demolition when a sledgehammer can do the exact same job, and controlled explosions bring better results.
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Hey, I understand where you're coming from. But industrial power fists are a thing in the setting, introduced first by Obsidian in Lonesome Road.
 
Tagaziel said:
But industrial power fists are a thing in the setting, introduced first by Obsidian in Lonesome Road.
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Isn't it a cutting tool though? It's not exactly a tool akin to a sledgehammer (speculation on the Vault wiki also notes how it was probably for cutting up materials that one may face in work so it's a lot more safer than using a power fist for demolition) plus there is some viability during occupation by having a handheld cutter that is on your person at all times which you can adjust freely through arm movement, as long as you remember to use the off-switch.

Though both items do bring up the notion of non-compliance with OSHA.
 
Tagaziel said:
I agree with you in general, but we're talking about a nation engaged in total war. Explosives used in construction are explosives not going to the war effort.



Psh, who cares about worker's health? Are you some sort of Chinese communist pinko unAmerican infiltrator saboteur?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamethrower#Other_uses

Radiation-resistant lining can be applied like the APP mentioned in the article. Or removing foliage. The pre-War world wasn't ecology-conscious, that much is clear.



Hey, I understand where you're coming from. But industrial power fists are a thing in the setting, introduced first by Obsidian in Lonesome Road.
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Bahhh, don't get my started on the GOD Hand, jesus lol. Also, Damn! I didn't even know you can use Flamethrowers like that, that's interesting, honestly.
 
CerberusGate said:
Isn't it a cutting tool though? It's not exactly a tool akin to a sledgehammer (speculation on the Vault wiki also notes how it was probably for cutting up materials that one may face in work so it's a lot more safer than using a power fist for demolition) plus there is some viability during occupation by having a handheld cutter that is on your person at all times which you can adjust freely through arm movement, as long as you remember to use the off-switch.
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Mind you, I assume it's for demolition. Might also be for driving spikes, nails, rods, and so on with the right regulation.

Though both items do bring up the notion of non-compliance with OSHA.
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OSHA is a Communist invention getting in the way of American FREEDOM AND CAPITALISM. A true AMERICAN WORKER needs no OSHA to tell him how to work! If he wants exposed fingers near whirring saw blades, then by God, the Constitution ENSURES HIS RIGHT TO PUT THEM THERE!

(the above message brought to you by the New England Commonwealth Chamber of Commerce)

Zerginfestor said:
Bahhh, don't get my started on the GOD Hand, jesus lol. Also, Damn! I didn't even know you can use Flamethrowers like that, that's interesting, honestly.
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I've seen it used quite a bit here in Poland, though that was for bituminous waterproofing used as a cheap roofing material. The use of flamethrowers always amused me to no end.
 
Tagaziel said:
I agree with you in general, but we're talking about a nation engaged in total war. Explosives used in construction are explosives not going to the war effort.
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I mean, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. It's possible for a private company and the US Government to both acquire lots of explosives.

Supply and demand. If enough people want Explosives, it will be profitable to make them, therefore more of them will be made. The US in the Fallout Universe is still, after all a capitalist society
Tagaziel said:
Mind you, I assume it's for demolition. Might also be for driving spikes, nails, rods, and so on with the right regulation.
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Couldn't you just use a normal hammer for that instead of wasting valuable resources on making a walking safety hazard.

I get that this universe has no health and safety standards, but it would still be a lot of time and effort finding new workers to replace ones who are constantly being injured.

So what advantage do they get out of the Super Sledge?, It's slightly faster?(Even though it'd be a lot less accurate to use a literal rocket powered hammer as a tool), It's slightly more powerful?(At the risk of constantly replacing workers)

It's like the Subway Stewards. Why would you risk scaring away customers, when you could easily just program the robots to escort those without tickets to the nearest authority?, Like who would go to a Subway where if they forget there tickets they get shot at?

Power Fists I can maybe understand as construction tools, but Super Sledges as shown in Fallout 4 don't seem like they would be very good construction tools.
 
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Tagaziel said:
Mind you, I assume it's for demolition. Might also be for driving spikes, nails, rods, and so on with the right regulation.
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I'm thinking along the lines of the industrial cutters that the Industrial Hand is equipped with. Having a cutter attached to a glove and you manoeuvring it around without needing to grasp a tool.

I can see driving in spikes, nails etc with a low-powered power fist (limited usage if workers have good sledgehammers) though demolition with a power fist is risky. Imagine punching down a wall only to have the structure collapse and you happen to be standing in said structure due to needing to be the puncher.
 
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