Download System Shock 2! **NOT WAREZ**

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jul 9, 2004
    Was just browsing www.the-underdogs.org and I noticed that they finally put system shock 2 up for download!

    Heres the review...

    You can download it here.

    They even have wasteland!

    I recommend playing both of them if you havent already.
     
  2. Tannhauser

    Tannhauser Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Orderite

    Mar 18, 2004
    System Shock 2 has been avalible for download for more than a little while off the Underdogs. Though I've noticed they have changed their version (now it is the full CD-ROM version, I guess that includes the cinematics lacking in their previous version).

    I do notice that the original System Shock is avalible, though I won't say it's new. I have no idea how long this has been the case. Last time I checked though, several months ago, they had System Shock 2 avalible for download (sans cinematics), but nothing for the original System Shock.

    I also notice that someone by the name of IO Error is credited for the original System Shock.
     
  3. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jul 9, 2004
    Last time i was on HOTU (around june) sys shock 2 wasnt available for download.
     
  4. Big T

    Big T Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jan 23, 2004
    I seem to remember Ratty posting about this some time ago, but there was some question of whether it was Abandonware or Warez.
    Unless I'm just confusing myself.
     
  5. DevilsAdvocate

    DevilsAdvocate First time out of the vault

    98
    Oct 15, 2004
    Well...Abandonware technically is Warez. Most people don't see it that way, and a lot of the software that is out on Abandonware is by companies that don't exist anymore or have removed the software from print. But still, until the copyright expires (which is like what, 90 years from the original print in the US) the developers would have a case against anyone who distributes "abandonware". Not that I disagree with the idea/philosophy of abandonware, it's just technically NOT LEGAL.
     
  6. Montez

    Montez So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Jun 20, 2003
    Someone phrased it pretty well on another forum, something to the effect of "The fact that it's on underdogs doesn't mean that it's legal abandonware, it just means that the people who own the rights to the game haven't bothered to tell them to take it down."
     
  7. Macaco

    Macaco Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    433
    Jul 13, 2004
    I don't know, maybe with the anouncement of that new whatever shock game they want SS2 to be distributed, i doubt they make any money from it these days, and any publicity is good publicity

    EDIT: I didn't know EA owned the rights to system shock... that makes thing different, to say the least.
     
  8. Montez

    Montez So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Jun 20, 2003
    I'm pretty sure that EA owns the rights to both games, Looking Glass and Irrational just developed SS and SS2 respectively - and I doubt EA really cares about helping anyone else out. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that they are available. It's just that their status on the Underdogs could change at any time.
     
  9. Eric the Viking

    Eric the Viking First time out of the vault

    41
    Jul 15, 2004
    Electronic Arts is an ESA member so I'd have expected them (ESA) to advise places that had SS2 available for download to remove it on EAs behalf. And as it seems they haven't done so, it's possible EA is letting the game go free.... possibly to help encourage interest in the small chance of a SS3.


    Cheers,

    Eric
     
  10. calculon000

    calculon000 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 10, 2004
    They should make the copyright on all electronic media expire in 10 years. Also, I bought System Shock 2 back in 1999 and it was super fun good time!
     
  11. JJXB

    JJXB First time out of the vault

    40
    Jul 5, 2004
    GRAVEDIGGER!!
     
  12. Roshambo

    Roshambo Antediluvian as Feck

    Apr 3, 2003
    Less than a month and still on the same forum page is hardly gravedigging.
     
  13. IOError

    IOError First time out of the vault

    30
    Oct 11, 2004
    I was originally going to post and disagree, but I thought some more and yeah, I'd go for that. It's a LITTLE short, but then electronic media ages so quickly that 10 years is quite reasonable. Just as long as the copyright itself and the intellectual property continues to be protected, I would have NO complaints with a much shorter copyright expiration.

    I mean really. Look at Half-life, came out in 1998. In 2004 it's still (barely) making a little money for Valve what with budget pricing and expansion packs and all, but can you imagine anybody paying a wooden nickel for it in 2008? I doubt it. Hell, at that point I would think gamers should be more than welcome to muck about with the innards of the source code to their heart's content, so long as they can't make money by "stealing" the actual franchise. Seems fair to me.

    But law isn't necessarily based on fairness or logic or even based on justice, so I'm really just pipe-dreaming. :D
     
  14. calculon000

    calculon000 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 10, 2004
    Well, yeah, if a company is still interesting in protecting the game they can just renew their copyright.

    For instance, if I pirated SimCity 2000 right now, you think anyone would care?