Fallout 2 mod EcCo Gameplay Overhaul (new version for RPU)

hi Pyran,

it would be very nice from your side if you will adopt this mod.

Thank you for support classic Fallout games .

 

Need help in EPA security level!!!
Cant open door with lockers, even with red passcard. When i inspect the door it says, door has no lock but control panel is nearby...
How to open it? I try to search this panel but i cant find it?

 

>>Adaptation:
When there's enough time.
>>EPA security level
Watch the walkthrough on youtube.
Take a screenshot or save. Someone will tell you.

 

There is no youtube video with this mod...
- EPA: loot rearranged/reduced somewhat; room with most powerful stuff at security level will be harder to get in...
That room idk how to open???

 

The hint is this: Figure out the hologram task in PA. Fix the robots control computer (next to the character who suggests testing the solar scorcher).

 

If you got the security card and can open security doors in red level, but not the doors with the armory, then know this:
EcCo did few tweaks hre and there to the game including EPA armory door.

Spoiler: hint

If I were You, Id follow the case of "toxic caves elevator", since "no phisical lock and a panel nearby" preaty much means something, and i can already tell You, so that you don't waste car fuel, that theese door with EcCo mod installed, require Mk.II of the thing you're looking for, so don't come back there with just the regular version

 

Hi Sagez, I was asking me exactly the same and took a look into the hs_barterprize.int just realising they are totally off. So I started to tweak them for the aim to make them consistent and lorewise natural and to make a trader char work.
These are the key points:

+ selling value does not go above buying value and both meet at barter=300
+ price ratio (buy:sell) escalates from Klam to San Fran in reasonable (blance-wise: hard) way:
8:1(KLA) to 15:1(SF) with barter=0, 3:1(KLA) to 5:1(SF) with barter=100
+ barter skill, CH, town reputation and master trader perk are taken into account
+ starting from ~barter=100 it is possible to do profitable trade runs between cities with existing trade routes and goods (hides, drugs, meds, gold,...)
+ items in demand are designed to match lore and local aspects (meds cheap in VC, hides cheap in Klam and vice versa, gold in demand here, uranium there and so on.)
+ completed list of towns

For a closer look whats in demand in detail take a look on the proto ids below the town names in the ini.
For a quick overview these are the main goods:

Klam: meds++, some ammo+, hides--
Den: meds+, jet++, booze-, some ammo+, hides-
Modoc: food+, hides+, leather armors-
VC: meds--, hides++, ref. uranium+, gold+, booze+, cats paw+
Gecko: ref uranium+, gold+
Abbey: booze+, books+, cats paw
Redding: gold--, jet+++, meds+, scribs+
Reno: jet--, drugs-, booze-, gold++, energy weapons++
BH: uranium+, ref uranium- , gold+
NCR: gold+, ref.uran+, piston spear-, spiked sl-,...
SF: (power armor+), ripper-, power fist-,...

Actually I quoted out NPC followers when checking for barter skill (leftover from testing) so they might to be un-quoted in the ini file if you want follower help in barter.
If doing so I recommend to change the barter values of NPC followers to lower values.

EDIT:
Small side note, the script may contain some new protos I added for my personal game. If anyone has additional protos to the ones from Ecco some edits might be recommended. Still the script should work.

See the adjusted file below:
https://www.nma-fallout.com/attachments/pmod_barter_formula-rar.16863/

 

Woah man, this is totally awesome. You could even start a new topic about it, so it won't be forgotten quickly (and so the other modders may use this formula).
I'm just afraid that people will post new posts
Are all cities covered? Like, what is needed in San Fran and NCR?
Thank you, great job.

 

If so, then this can be included in the update.

 

Yes, all cities are covered. I updated my post for that. But NCR and especially San Fran mostly got local melee/unarmed weapons on discount the gangs in the area are using in my custom settings.
Thank you really, I will consider putting the formula on topic.

 

@_Pyran_ Will your RUP have ECCO mod, burn's updated mods and tweaks incorporated?

 

EcCo mod doesn't contain tweaks by burn.
RUP - I plan to update it. There will be tweaks, but only partially. I can't say the exact dates.
If I understand you correctly.

 

Hello, I've installed this mod but I don't see Mr Fixit. Now I'm not even sure the mod even works, how can I make sure?

 

Hello.
Click the binoculars at yourself.
Important, the mod is compatible with the classic RP 2.3.3. Not tested with RPU by burn.
But, testing\adaptation for RPU is planned

 

Hi there!
v0.6.3 - optimized the internal structure of the modification (which eliminated some of the problems), without interfering with scripting. To adapt the modification to the RPu, just didn't have enough time and motivation))))

It's great that you're coming back for an update mod.

 

I would love to see a rebalanced economy mod that does the job. Please do not take this as an insult. I'm a huge fan of what you tried to do with the earlier version and of what you actually achieved. Your script for adjusting both buying and selling price was excellent although I would use whatever I posted in your thread 5+ years ago for the starting base values. However, the mod failed to address the primary problem with the economy which is the highest Barter skill value of the NPCs in the party being used in transactions. Basically you start the game with a Barter skill between -6 and 50 depending on Charisma and Traits. Once you add Sulik or Vic to the party your Barter skill will count as 50 regardless of what it actually is. Once you add Cassidy to the party your Barter skill will count as 80. This means that if your Barter skill is 26 you would have to add 54 points to your Barter skill, (with 0 positive effect), before adding more points began to have any tiny positive effect. No-one is going to waste points doing this before they reach level 12 at the earliest.

The possible solutions are:
1) Use only the Chosen One's Barter skill value in transactions.
2) If any Party member has a higher Barter skill adjust the Barter skill formula so the player gets INT [ Chosen One Barter skill + ( [ Highest Party member Barter skill - Chosen One Barter skill ] / 6 ) ] instead of the highest Party member Barter skill value. The range this formula can be adjusted by is small with the current NPC Barter values.
3) Adjust all the NPC Barter skill values in their base files.
4) Revalue all the item prices.

In my opinion Option 1 is the easiest and would work with what you've previously done. Option 2 is better than option 1. Options 3 is desirable but problematic. Option 4 by itself won't do the job.

Options 3 and 4 will impact other mods. Option 3 would potentially allow a greater range for the Option 2 formula.

Bottom line: I don't see how you solve the problem without using Option 1 or 2.

 

Oh! that's awesome news I always use Ecco when I play Fallout 2, but until today I was kinda "fixing" it myself, by choosing which file to overwrite the other mods. That made it playable (but with bugs of course). Anyway, thank you for working on it again, this mod is great.

 

I loved the crafting system, the craftable items added there is the main reason I use this mod. Now, the trap system... Hmmm... I don't think I ever use it, but I'm not a good person to take feedback about it, I kinda never use traps in any game.
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