Elections in Russia

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Neamos, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. Neamos

    Neamos Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jun 30, 2005
    Duma elections for now, this thread could be used for presidential election later.

    Anyways, the polls are closed, 22.00 Moscow time 19,5% of the votes have been counted. So far (the limit is 7%):

    United Russia - 63,5% (Putin's party, the most popular and powerful party)
    CPRF - 11,5% (The communist party)
    LDPR - 10% (Liberal - democratic party, not a very liberal or democratic party of radical militarists and other stupid people with a populist clown for a leader)
    Fair Russia - 7% (Um, I think this is the Kremlin's party in attempt to grab the vote of the left)

    Other that just might catch up:
    Agrarian party - 2,5% (I got nuthin')

    Others have received 1% or less and should go hide in a corner in shame.

    Some violations have been reported, up to 10,000 by the communists, who are always against everything, ever, so take that as you will. I'm waiting for some by the western observers.
    99% percent of Checheniya has voted according to Kadyrov, which is the fishiest thing so far.

    Violations are going to be indubitably, but I think it's absolutely retarded of the Un.Rus.ians to do so, as they have the most competent and popular person and federal channels as their support , they would easily get 55%, the violations are only hurting their reputation, but eh.

    Will Putin be the Prime Minister in charge of the EdRo and the Duma after the presidential elections?
    Discuss.

    In before: Who'd ever suspect that an ex-KGB agent put in charge of a country would stunt democracy and reinstate a military state?
     
  2. iii

    iii Vault Dweller

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    Oct 10, 2005
    Well... I didn't see that coming:lol:

    Besides the Communist Party all other partys that got into the duma are sympathizers of Putins party (to say it mildly)... so basically all is set for Russias future :clap: .

    But I believe that the whole "system of Putin" is much more fragile than most people think it is...
     
  3. Neamos

    Neamos Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jun 30, 2005
    Though Putin's not to blame for the liberal/democratic opposition not being able to keep its shit together. Also, many starting democracies had a one party system for some time, no need for drastic assumptions. If the opposition can work together, the next elections might be very promising.

    1.00 Moskau time
    40%:
    U R - 63,1
    CPRF - 11,5
    LDPR - 9,4
    FR - 7,6

    Fuck politics, Imma goin to bed.

    EDIT: lol auto-censor is dumb
     
  4. GreyViper

    GreyViper Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Jul 2, 2004
    Well was there any doubt how things would turn out?

    Overall it will be interesting to see if things calm down, or there will be cursing and swearing about bad bad west.
     
  5. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    It's a shame to see Yabloko go, but other than that I'm surprised we'll see that many parties in the duma.

    We'll see what Putin decides to do with his National Leader concept.
     
  6. Neamos

    Neamos Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jun 30, 2005
    What? Like, "omg most people choose United Russia, it's all the west's fault"?

    Why? Ain't the SPS better?

    UnR - 64,1
    CPRF - 11,6
    LDPR - 8,2
    FR - 7,8

    Aw, I was hoping UnRu's score will go down at least a bit
     
  7. GreyViper

    GreyViper Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Jul 2, 2004
    Nah, I was thinking more about Lavrov coming out with another statement where he declares his patience is running out and there will be reckoning or something like that. But then again why not something along "omg huge amount evidence found about tampering with results. Hence why UnR didn't have 99% victory, clues point to west"

    Anyway jokes aside I have been radiang some of the articels about the elections and found this http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2220895,00.html & http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2007/12/02_a_2374977.shtml, made me go LOL :clap: Mind you you have to take it with grain of salt.
     
  8. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    Officially there was 99% attendance in Chehnya, 99,4% voted for United Russia there. Are we really supposed to believe that Chechnyans love Puitin so much?
     
  9. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    Sure, I just always had a fondness for those crazy kooks at Yabloko.

    Ausir: Chechnya is always a playball voting area. It's not liek the Chechnyan vote matters much either way.
     
  10. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    While I think it was a foregone conclusion that Putin would win, that there was unfairness and manipulation isn't a good thing. It would have been better for Putin if the election had been free and fair.

    (Seems that Russia has the same problems as Florida and Ohio!)

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_eu/russia_election
     
  11. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    To be honest, I'm mostly amused by how this is being covered in the Western media. It's a fairly fraudulent election, but in this case that doesn't mean the elections aren't representative of the people's will. The raising of the entrance barrier from 5% to 7% was the only real worrying thing.

    And then our papers spell it out that the communists were objecting. So what else is new? Or that Garry Kasparov is whining a lot. It's hilarious to see him titled "leader of the opposition" when you realise how few Russians give a damn about him. If he's leader of the opposition, the opposition is in a damned bad state.

    Doesn't matter, this is all fairly trivial. What Russia needs is someone who shoves economic reforms down the nation's throat before the Oil Production Efficiency crisis hits.
     
  12. Neamos

    Neamos Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jun 30, 2005
    Some representative of the U.R promised that it's only to weed out small, dead parties, and that by the 2011 it'll be back to 3%. Of course, the west doesn't even have the balls to confront Burma or Zimbabwe, if the U.R doesn't keep the promise, the future might be a little grim.

    That's one funny 404. And you're still holding that vendetta against Lavrov, eh? E: aw, it's back up.
     
  13. GreyViper

    GreyViper Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Jul 2, 2004
    Nah not vendetta, but I find his outbursts amusing. Hes no Zirinovski but he makes up with his attempt to instill warth of god into who ever is on the shit list. :mrgreen:

    On topic found http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL038836420071203?pageNumber=3&virtualBrandChannel=0

    Not sure should Putin feel flattered or insulted. :?
     
  14. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    I sympathise with Kasparov & his gang, but i also have to admit a strong leader like Putin has his good sides as well.

    lets just say it couldve been a lot worse than it is now...
     
  15. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    *flails arms* They need someone who is willing to overhaul the economic structure because there's a frikkin' economic crisis on the horizon!
     
  16. Neamos

    Neamos Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jun 30, 2005
    Why?
    Why do you sympathize with nacbols, teenagers who like to pee against the wind?

    If Bobby Fischer tried to overthrow Bush, would you sympathize (1) with him?

    (1) Damn, this is a hard word
     
  17. Maphusio

    Maphusio Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Sep 25, 2004
    Or Russia has the same pesky electronic voting "problems". :wink:
     
  18. iii

    iii Vault Dweller

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    Oct 10, 2005
    Well I am expecting that the price for foods is going to go up in the near future (it has been the same due to subsidies the last years). It will be interesting how the lower end of society is going to react to that.
     
  19. GreyViper

    GreyViper Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Jul 2, 2004
    Sorry didn't notice that. :o

    Edit: Ok thats wierd your link works mine dosent . :?
     
  20. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    no, I sympathise with him because I had a chat with him a few weeks ago. he's a very sympathic person and makes some very valid points.

    though i'm sure he'd never have won the election if he was allowed to run.

    but that doesn't change the validity of his concerns (even though in the western media he's mostly repeating the few same concerns over & over again, but it runs much deeper ofc. he does this because he knows he only gets limited western media time.).