Enclave in relation to the Main Quest

Discussion in 'Fallout 3 Discussion' started by Harold2, Nov 25, 2008.

  1. Harold2

    Harold2 First time out of the vault

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    Nov 25, 2008
    You know in Star Wars, where they needed to shoot a single missile down a little tube on the deathstar, just to make the thing blow up?

    And then the second deathstar was destroyed with the help of Ewoks?

    This is what I call Death Star syndrome. It's where, (and it's perfectly reasonable in movies, where time space is limited) some vast and evil empire takes one tiny push to fall down. Like the Enclave. Notice how you captured by the Enclave? Within a few lines of dialogue, you're already running around their base killing their extremely weak soldiers because of internal divisions. Within a few minutes, you've convinced their boss to destroy the base. Oh, and he's a computer. This fantastic, characterful villain that has been built up for me. He's not even some huge HAL inspired computer with a huge screen and a menacing red eye. He's a small computer. Where's the damn theatricality? Where's the villainy? Where's the fun?

    Where the F is the challenge, and, in relation to this thread, where is the satisfaction in defeating an organization that falls over like a cardboard cut-out?

    I liked Fallout 3. Personally, it felt like a Beta version where the quests where still under construction, and that actual scriptwriters hadn't finished the real dialogue yet, but I DID have fun. Until I turned my attention to the main quest. So. Thoughts on the Enclave in relation to the main quest.
     
  2. 13BEAST

    13BEAST First time out of the vault

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    Nov 23, 2008
    shoulda put spoiler warnings...
     
  3. ScottXeno

    ScottXeno It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Nov 10, 2008
    Every thread in this forum will most likely spoil any plot details for you, BEAST. You should just steer clear if you don't want to run the risk of getting something ruined.

    The entire plot is pointless. I've found myself just ignoring it, killing things, coming up with my own ideas about the wasteland and what is going on for my character. The game is better that way.
     
  4. 13BEAST

    13BEAST First time out of the vault

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    Nov 23, 2008
    Not for me, I've beaten the game with a bludgeoning stick. I want turn that stick on the Bethesda devs and their little fanboys as well, but that'd be illegal.

    But it's not beyond anyone else in this forum to use spoiler warnings, what makes this guy so special?
     
  5. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008
    The descriptor beneath the forum name itself contains the phrase "Expect spoilers."
    As such, you should expect spoilers in this forum.
     
  6. Zaru

    Zaru First time out of the vault

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    Sep 3, 2007
    Re: Death Star Syndrome

    I don't think Luke would be able to convince the Emperor to leave his plans of destroying the Rebellion. :)
     
  7. Alphadrop

    Alphadrop A right proper chap.

    Aug 21, 2008
    Would be funny seeing Luke convince the Emporer to blow up the deathstar after a short conversation though.
     
  8. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    If Bethesda did it;

    Luke "Emperor, you have to stop it."

    Emperor Palpatine "Nonsense my young friend, clearly you can see that I am the best choice for order and stability in the galaxy."

    Luke "You can't force people to serve you."

    Emperor Palpatine "But I have the Force and this battlestation."

    Luke "But it is wrong, can't you see that."

    Emperor Palpatine "Hmm, very well, I will blow up the Death Star II once you and Vader have left it."
     
  9. Infernaeus

    Infernaeus First time out of the vault

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    Nov 23, 2008
    In my opinion, the main quest was the most god-awful part of this whole game. While there are a great deal of things wrong with it, this is something that's just utterly glaring. Bethesda must have some of the most inept writers to contrive that piece of shit they call a story. And the Enclave Base part was really just the worst of it all. Malcolm McDowell is such a cool mother fucker, and they ruin his character. Just like they took Patrick Stewart and gave him some terrible lines to work with, and made Sean Bean equally as boring. They pick up all of my favorite actors and make them do the worst shit.
     
  10. M-26-7

    M-26-7 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jul 20, 2008
    Fuck it, I say, put a green screen behind Malcolm and have him dance around the fucking wasteland beating the shit out of things. It would be the best video game ever.
     
  11. Public

    Public Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    May 18, 2006
    :mrgreen: :clap:

    "Goood my young apprentice, good"