Evil Avatar: Fallout - an outside perspective

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    Evil Avatar is offering us a weird bit, an editorial by someone who is playing Fallout 2 for the first time.<blockquote>Whenever a discussion about Fallout would arise, I never had anything to contribute. And for the most part, it never bothered me. As the years have progressed, however, this simple "Game" has become less so, and more an item in gaming pop culture. It began to irk me that there was a beautiful, immutable experience - shared by many of my brethren - that I could not be a part of.

    The upcoming advent of The third installment of the series has only made things worse. Existing fans in the series were whipped into a fervor about it. I saw the trailer - and it inspired no excitement from me. All it was was a broken radio playing a classic song. I was unaware of the series' penchant for using such scenes in the opening. Everyone seemed so excited about the game, and as more details were uncovered, comparison with past iterations of the series inevitably came up. It was by casually observing one of these that I discovered that Fallout 2 was turn-based.

    This immediately caught my attention, as I hold a special place in my heart for turn-based games. Over the past few weeks, my interest with the game became increasingly apparent - even bordering on obsession.</blockquote>Link: Fallout - from the perspective of an outsider (ongoing).

    Spotted on Gamebanshee.
  2. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    He should've played Fallout to get a good feel of the setting.

    Also, he made a character that focused on strength and charisma? An....interesting choice, to say the least. Especially if he takes the Baldur's Gate way out and simply robs most other stats.

    But it's an interesting try-out in any case. I wonder how it'll progress.
  3. Val

    Val First time out of the vault

    May 24, 2007
    He is going for a hell of a ride. playing that game for the first time.
  4. Quantos Leap

    Quantos Leap It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Apr 6, 2005
    I freak out everytime I hear someone is playing fallout 2 for the first time; with the world map travel issue, I imagine it would partially ruin the experience.
  5. Big T

    Big T Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jan 23, 2004
    So do I, as, I assume, many others must. Most people just do not "get" Fallout and view one/us as (a) lunatic(s);
    True. Though asking them to install a mod to combat this is unlikely to breed favour.
  6. Morbus

    Morbus Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 16, 2006
    I don't know... After the guy said he liked TB games, I'm much more keen on agreeing with him. Maybe it's stupid of me... Maybe it's the kind of stupidity Bethesda induces into people with their half-assed cult-raping games... -_-
  7. Allen63

    Allen63 First time out of the vault

    Jun 12, 2007
    I'm a Fallout newbie too -- for the same reasons (mainly the advent of Fallout 3 hype). I started with Fallout a few weeks ago and am now playing Fallout 2.

    There was nothing to dislike about Fallout 1, in my opinion -- it was excellent in every respect.

    Not done with Fallout 2, but it only suffers from being more of the same -- not any serious issues for me.

    I think if Fallout 3 were exactly modeled after Fallout 1 and 2 that would be too much of a good thing for me -- I want some surprises. For example, Van Buren (cancelled Fallout 3) seemed a bit lame. On the other hand, just keeping the name and changing everything else would be not enough of a good thing -- so, we'll see on Fallout 3.

    Nonetheless, I can relate to the author's reasons for trying Fallout (I just think he should have started with the Original -- even if he had to play it on a PC).
  8. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
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    Jul 5, 2003
    The original game was released for Mac as well.
    In fact, there was much doubt about Fallout 2 being released on Mac or not.
    Come to think of it, I'm not even sure Fallout 2 *was* released on Mac.
  9. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    Yes, Fallout 2 was released for Mac in 2002. The problem with FO1's Mac version is that it doesn't run under MacOS X, while FO2's does.
  10. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    As Tim Hume complains of in his profile, it wasn't.

    However, MacPlay produced a port of Fallout 2, released in 2002.

    According to Tim Hume, it does, but the OS X port removed the talking PIPBoy. Maybe the older versions don't work on OS X?
  11. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    Then why is everyone complaining about the combat interface in the G/T forum? They do it just to spite us!!
  12. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    Anyway, even if FO1 does run under MacOS X, the Mac version is probably harder to get than in case of FO2, which has been ported in 2002, since there haven't been as many re-releases as with the PC version.
  13. Plasma-pip

    Plasma-pip First time out of the vault

    May 21, 2007
    I too, am new to Fallout. Everytime I played an RPG before (Except with some rare cases, mostly with games that garnered critical accaim but didn't sell well, much like Fallout) there seemed to be an element missing. Fallout was one of the few games that had that element, freedom. Not the illusion of it, like Oblivion or similar games have, but the real thing. It's only the sad truth that the masses prefer the illusion over the real thing. If only illusions weren't convincing. :cry:
  14. Ahnìon

    Ahnìon First time out of the vault

    Jun 23, 2007
    Well, I've been clutching at straws for hopes of a real Fallout sequel on the horizon, and here's one...

    It's encouraging to see that the (pre-marketing) hype already rising around "Fallout 3" is actually getting more people to play the original games. This, in turn, will likely garner new fans - of which at least some will see the travesty in Bethesda's "sequel" if it is indeed made as it looks at this point. That means the hunger for a real sequel will be even wider felt, and the inherent promise of revenue in a game that, while it can't take its cue directly from the Fallout franchise without being sued to oblivion (excuse the cheap pun) and back by Bethesda, will at least focus on reflecting the elements that made Fallout great.
  15. jfreund

    jfreund First time out of the vault

    Jan 31, 2007
    Yep, the more people that play through FO/FO2 for the first time, the worse it will be for BethSoft.
  16. draeke

    draeke It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Dec 2, 2005
    Is this true?? I've never seen this mentioned. This is pulled directly from the Evil Avatar forums:

    My friend, however, got a very different game than I did, and I suspect that he probably had more fun. He's the type to screw around with his character creations, and he had his strength pumped all the way up, while significantly sacrificing his intelligence. The effects on his game were extreme: he could barely communicate with anyone, mostly speaking in grunts. The opening movie was different ("You. Go. Klamath. Klamaaaaath."). And when he met truly mentally challenged NPCs, the types of NPCs that would have spoken to my character in grunts, they understood each other completely, with high english. "Good day, m'lord, how goes your afternoon." Hilarious.
  17. Nim82

    Nim82 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    May 5, 2007
    Weird that he is starting with FO2, that's a bit wrong. I hope he has read the manual, otherwise he probably won't know what the hell is going on!

    Anyway it is good that he is making the effort, 10 bottle caps say he will have problems fuelling the car :P
  18. I_eat_supermutants

    I_eat_supermutants Vault Senior Citizen

    Feb 5, 2007
    Well, my last girlfriend played Fallout for the first time, and I realised how frustrating it is to watch. It's cool that they get into it, but man.
    "No click and HOLD the button, no NOT the left"
    It was frustrating but she got it after a while.
    But, this guy seems to be on the right track.
  19. jfreund

    jfreund First time out of the vault

    Jan 31, 2007
    The first time I played Fallout I borrowed from a friend - just the CD, no manual. I had no trouble learning how the interface and combat worked.
  20. Maphusio

    Maphusio Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Sep 25, 2004
    Same exact story here. Since then I have purchased several copies over the years (due to lent out copes that were not returned) and continue to play Fallout 1&2 to this day.

    This article is a really neat read. It's interesting and exciting to see people trying Fallout. It's even more neat to read their fresh and unique thoughts on FO1&2.

    I hope to see more here that are new to Fallout and read what they have to say about their experiences.