Fallout 3 Demo on Monday

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by 13pm, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. 13pm

    13pm Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    831
    Apr 10, 2007
    So it looks like we'll see a demo. From Bethblog:
    <blockquote>If you’re waiting for your chance to see Fallout 3 in action, G4’s got you covered on Monday. Beginning at 7PM (Eastern Time), they’ll be airing a two-hour E3 Preview Show featuring a Fallout 3 demo from Todd Howard. For more details on G4’s E3 schedule, head here.</blockquote>Thanks Yellow

    Link: Fallout 3 demo Monday on G4 at Bethblog
    Link: G4 Schedule
     
  2. Makagulfazel

    Makagulfazel Adept Bungler of Things Orderite

    Jun 14, 2007
    Whew!
    Fallout3 DOES exist outside of the world of screenshots.
     
  3. Ravager69

    Ravager69 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 21, 2007
    ....


    Why won't they let US download&play it?
     
  4. whirlingdervish

    whirlingdervish Brahmin Cavalry Commander

    Jul 3, 2007
    Does anyone else find it funny how they've used the excuse that they wont be making a demo, so they could spend more time and resources polishing the game itself, while the entire time they've had one that they were showing to the press, and if this "demo" isn't the same, they've now developed 2 of them?

    Yet nothing has been released for anyone to play without supervision.


    They sure know how to build confidence in the opinion that they're intentionally trying to hide something from us.

    ;)


    The only good thing I can say about this is that we'll be seeing a gameplay demo before release.
     
  5. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008
    "Demo" in this sense means demonstration. That's what people do at E3, this isn't a "demo" as in a try-before-you-buy kind of way.
     
  6. Moving Target

    Moving Target Mildly Dipped

    500
    Oct 25, 2007
    [sarcasm]Oh goodie. G4. I love G4. Can't wait to have to slog through an hour and forty five minutes to watch a five minute (at the most) "demo" of FO3. Cuz I had SO much fun when they had a TWO HOUR SPECIAL on Halo 3.[/sarcasm]
     
  7. whirlingdervish

    whirlingdervish Brahmin Cavalry Commander

    Jul 3, 2007
    Is there really a good reason to make a shortened version of the game for people to watch you play as opposed to making a shortened version of the game for you to let other people play?

    The only difference I see is in WHO is playing the little chunk of the game, before WE are expected to buy it.


    They obviously polished the demo plenty if they are showing it to the press at every opportunity and letting press members get "hands on" with it, so why not release it as a beta type demo with a signup list to download, or some other form of controlled prerelease player testing by someone who's livelihood isn't tied up in how the game does financially?
     
  8. Autoduel76

    Autoduel76 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    373
    May 14, 2007
    A Demonstration is usually not given on a shortened version of the game. Its usually a full build of the game. They just demo certain areas.
     
  9. Bodybag

    Bodybag Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    324
    Mar 7, 2008
    Who says it's shortened?

    EDIT: Beaten to the punch!
     
  10. whirlingdervish

    whirlingdervish Brahmin Cavalry Commander

    Jul 3, 2007
    you fucktards.

    The game engine is complete.
    It's been done since tes4 with only a few changes to make it FO3.
    (which is also supposedly "complete")

    The demo is a full build of the Fallout 3 engine. NO SHIT.

    It contains shortened content, otherwise they'd be allowing people a hands-on of the entire game. (which they aren't, as we know from BN and Suaside's preview of it)

    What do you call a full build of a game engine that only includes certain areas and not every bit of content for the entire game?

    WAIT FOR IT...

    Oh yeah, shortened.
     
  11. Autoduel76

    Autoduel76 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    373
    May 14, 2007
    No. You are completely wrong. This has nothing to do with the ending, or the game only containing certain areas.

    They are not creating a shortened version of the game in any way. The builds don't just contain certain areas of the game. They are only allowing them access to certain areas of the game.

    If you can't see the difference, I'm afraid I can be of no help to you.

    Unless you are arguing that they should release the full game as a demo and expect their downloaders to be on their best behavior and just stick to the preagreed upon areas... :roll:
     
  12. whirlingdervish

    whirlingdervish Brahmin Cavalry Commander

    Jul 3, 2007
    yer pretty quick on the reply there captain obvious.

    Give me a link to where it says they are letting members of the press play a full version of the game.

    And while you're at it explain how the demo that BN and Suaside saw was the "whole game" with only parts shown.
     
  13. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite

    May 18, 2003
    Quit the flames, now.
     
  14. Autoduel76

    Autoduel76 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    373
    May 14, 2007
    They don't have to say it. They say they are giving a demonstration of the game, not allowing them to play a "demo". The difference in the language implies the difference in the type of showing that is given. This is standard terminology in the gaming industry/E3 showings.

    Ok. Let me explain it to you (for the umpteenth time), in simple fucking terms.

    Imagine you are showing a friend Fallout 1. You pop in the FULL GAME, play through ithe intro and creating your character, and then play through the rat cave. When you get to the end of the cave and exit into the light, you STOP THE GAME.

    Ta-Da! You've just demoed the game, as Todd has been doing with Fallout 3.

    The full game is there, installed on the fucking computer. Everything is there. This isn't a special build. You just stopped the demonstration when you wanted to.
     
  15. whirlingdervish

    whirlingdervish Brahmin Cavalry Commander

    Jul 3, 2007
    Apparently you don't get it autoduel.

    Do you really think the people that are getting a "hands-on" with the game are getting to play the entire game as it will be shipped?

    If not, then they are playing a shorter version of it.


    Unless Todd is going to stand next to them and tell them all "you can't go there" every time they start heading in a direction they shouldn't see, in what has been described repeatedly by Bethesda as an open sandbox game, then it is artificially shortened in some form to keep them in the "demo" areas.

    None of that really matters since we know they actually have a demo, that they initially were showing before they called the game "complete".

    That is what we have been seeing in "exclusive" previews for a year now.

    :clap:
     
  16. ZiggyMeister

    ZiggyMeister It Wandered In From the Wastes

    126
    Apr 7, 2008
    For what I understand this demo will start at 1 am, Greenwich time. So I guess I wont waste my sleep hours to see it.
    That's bad :(, because I wanted to be able to complain about it, and now I can only complain that I will be sleeping when it goes online...
     
  17. Autoduel76

    Autoduel76 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    373
    May 14, 2007
    No...you don't get it. I don't know why, but for some reason you have an extremely poor grasp of how games exist as programs and are shown at E3.

    First of all, SO FAR, Todd (or Pete) HAS been exactly standing right there telling them where and where not to go. Have you been reading these previews? They've all said that been demoed with them standing right there and telling them what to do and what not to do.

    Its likely going to be the same at E3. This is just a press only event and, at E3, every devs booth/area/room that they have is staffed by their employees monitoring whats going on.

    In addition, they CAN also physically keep you out of areas in a FULL BUILD of a game, if they need to, through simply putting in dev codes to BLOCK OFF areas. And that is exactly what companies do when they put their games out on the E3 floor, rather than making shortened versions of the game.

    That doesn't make it a shortened version of the game. That's the full game, with areas blocked off. Which means, A) its too big for a demo download and B) downloaders would quickly hack the ability to access the rest of the program.

    Honestly, its a pretty simple concept that shouldn't have taken you more than one post to understand.
     
  18. RobOverall

    RobOverall First time out of the vault

    21
    Mar 19, 2008
    I'd say full game and not shortened.
     
  19. Ranne

    Ranne Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    372
    May 15, 2008
    Ok, time-out.

    First of all, we're talking about five game previews being fit in only two hours. F3 will be shown as a 24-minute-long segment at best, likely much less than that with all the usual commentators' mugshots wasting the valuable time. Also, the game is still qualified as work in progress. Technically speaking, it cannot be "the whole game" no matter how you look at it. So, these things considered, could anybody tell me why the f**k it matters whether it's a shortened version of the game or not? What difference does it make?
     
  20. ZiggyMeister

    ZiggyMeister It Wandered In From the Wastes

    126
    Apr 7, 2008
    It makes no difference! IMHO