Wow your ire and dedication to the core Fallout is impressive and thrilling. While some people may be turned away by your dedication to those core ideals and your passion for them, I am thrilled to see your well referenced responses. I don't understand how someone could play Fallout 1 or 2 and then play TES and think that the people behind TES could ever begin to comprehend what made the core fallout special. I love FPS and many other repetitive genre's but I will not go quietly into the night when it comes to the core Fallout. It represented everything that publishing companies these days are enemies to. I mean, we have been getting some awesome games these days that are more of the same, but still enjoyable...but none has come close to the depth of enjoyment and strategy as the core Fallout series. I'm hoping we might get closer to that with Mass Effect, but I'm not holding my breath. Now Pete may say that he loves fallout 1 and 2, but I also bet that the people working on Shadowrun FPS also say they love the core Shadowrun...doesn't prevent them from making a bastardization of the IP. I find it funny that in the one PnP campaign I played of Shadowrun in college, Bill Gates was the ultimate enemy...I can add pretty much every other massive publisher to that list...they are the ultimate enemy to gamings glory days. EDIT: What happened to Roshambo...our little deathclaw?