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Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Sander, Jul 9, 2008.
According to my sources it is for the use of real-world drugs (morphine).
I guess they'll have to cut out all drugs from the game to get a rating in Australia.
The same is going to happen with the gore for Germany, but we can still import it uncut from Austria or Switzerland.
I haven't pre-ordered the game yet, because im still waiting for a rating of the german version.
Well, in GTA IV there is use of cocaine, random killing, DUI, car jacking, prostitution...Ok, there is no dismemberment, but still...
( And Call of Cthulhu : Dark Corners of the Earth also had morphine )
Ahh, so you are in favour of Australians having a more bland version of the game and also Bethesda having less resources to patch/improve it? Not only that but you are ok with future games, possibly Fallout 4, looking at this and thinking they had best tone down the adult content so this doesn't happen to them? There is such a thing as being overly fanatical in opposition to a game you know.
They will probably just have to rename morphine and make it a fictional, generic drug, just like all the FO1 and FO2 drugs.
Fallout 3 has been given an R 18+ rating.
In Australia games can only have a maximum rating of MA 15+.
Fallout 3 will be released in Australia however, it will be censored much in the same way as GTA IV.
And are you sure they weren't censored in Australia?
You know this will only increase sales
(don't answer that, you know i am)
The GTA IV released in Australia was edited to meet the requirements of the classification.
Ehm, no, it's been refused classification. It has *not* been given a rating.
We do not know this, although this is probable.
Well, it will likely increase sales outside Australia.
I have no idea... Were they ?
EDIT : Sander just answered this.
Australia has been sliding into nanny-state status for years. The only people that can stop it are the citizens.
I choose to believe they banned it for beeing crap. Because that's why everyone should ban it.
What a load of goddamn horseshit. Dark Sector was banned due to dismemberment as well. We pay more for everything and then our government has the gall to tell us that we can't even buy it. We could walk down the street together, happily purchasing a copy of Fallout 2 and proceed to kill children, have sex, blow apart a few people, take some drugs, gamble, but - oh no! Dismemberment? Deus Ex is a pretty good game too, "hey JC got a candy bar for me?" *bang bang*. Let's slide into some ultra-conservative hypocrisy. Hey, just like that child porn/art debate that's raging. National outrage that people are presenting a nude youngster as a piece of art. Disgusting, right? That pervert! Wanna go down to the record store and pick up a copy of "Blind Faith" later? "Houses of the Holy" ain't half bad, either.
On a personal level, the immediate effect of this isn't significant. Was I going to buy Fallout 3? Probably not. Was the cut content from GTAIV significant or essential? Not likely. Should I have the option or choice, as an adult, to experience this content? Yes. On the level of being free adult citizen of Australia, this bullshit isn't just significant, it's also very enraging.
Actually, come to think of, it's also very ironic. A game being made by developers who treat their audience like children was banned by a government who treat their citizens like children. Haw haw!
Look at it this way, why would you even WANT to dismember people?
Well, no love lost if it turns out to be a crap game. If it turns out decent, I'll just support a foreign economy by getting it on my South East Asian holiday...
depending on a rationale they used i could even approve of that
i mean, perhaps someone in Australia does not think that voilence is fucking hilarious ??
but than again, its more probable that they ban it for some insignificant detail (oh noes a nipple/tit/'drug' word) which will only serve to annoy players (like 'chem' in fallout 2 o_O)
btw, ESRB and such are plain idiots imho ...
And they didn't want children to be killable.
Bethesda would have bigger chances to release it there if Fallout had isometric view instead of realistic graphics.
I think that if the PR and Marketing of Bethesda plays this right, they can win more from this ban more than they can loose.
Not that I care much about that...
Your joking, right?
The Australian government is stupid. When it comes to censorship, it's even worse than the US, which is saying a lot.