Fallout 4: Exploring Far Harbor

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by NotAcasul, May 18, 2016.

  1. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Well then maybe they shouldn't be making "RPGs". I mean if they don't wanna do their job maybe they should just make fallout 4 again. But "improve it" a little more. By removing more shit.
     
  2. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    And that is why I keep saying I don't care what Bethesda do in their games, what I care about and really annoys me is that they sell Fallout 4 as just a RPG game (just check the Genre of the game on Steam, not to be confused with Tags). While for example Fallout New Vegas was sold with the genres: Adventure, RPG.

    Then people who enjoy Fallout 4 but have no idea what a RPG is will defend to their death that RPGs are just games where you kill stuff and level up (further increasing and deepening the wrong perception of what a RPG is).

    I have seen such stupid misconceptions spoken by Fallout 4 fans that apparently what makes a game a RPG is so generalised that, using those definitions games like Super Mario Bros and Quake could be considered RPGs :facepalm:

    No matter how polite and patient I am explaining what a RPG is and how Fallout 4 could at best be considered a Action/Shooter, Adventure game with light or minor RPG elements, I get attacked and virtually stoned to death by the ignorant masses that for some reason think what I am saying is the most offensive and vile thing in the world. :scratch:

    As an old guy that the favorite genre of games is RPGs and that played hundreds of hours of actual Pen and Paper (or Tabletop as it is also known) RPGs it is just painful to see what the definition of this genre is turning into these days. :rip:
     
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  3. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    @Risewild

    I ain't even old and I'm still pissed off.
    Just know that i feel your pain at 17. :aiee:
     
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  4. Radiosity

    Radiosity Writiosity

    464
    Sep 9, 2015
    SAME :(
     
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  5. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Well a certain Youtube spammer thinks Far Harbor is amazing so I'm convinced it's probably just as lazy and dumb as the rest of the game.

    That is what RPGs are now. Borderlands now defines RPGs. Boring leveling systems and upgrading your health and stats and stupid MMO quests in a singleplayer campaign.

    "Fallout 4 is an RPG because you can roleplay picking Hubflowers all day if you want to."
     
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  6. TransgenderVaultDeweller

    TransgenderVaultDeweller "Fallout 4 adds to the lore"

    426
    Aug 14, 2015

    I like to add an addendum to this, It seems this meme arguments came into fruition after the big and huge successful release of World Of Warcraft that set the precedent by becoming a catalyst in the future RPG market as a standard that you must have level up, Grind, Kill, loot, Return and repeat to step one. If you kind of think about it, Morrowind came out in 2003 and people argue that it was last best bethesda game in terms of depth, But two years or three years later oblivion came out and WoW proceeded it. So maybe that is when they decided to change their development process into making games that were less of an rpg and as i've already stated hack and slash loot sim because that was the way they thought the market was going? Or the very least they thought they could captivate a large amount of that audience and put as little effort as they can while trying to hide behind their shadow past to confuse others.
     
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  7. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    WoW.

    What's so good about it?
     
  8. Vergil

    Vergil Banned

    Jul 8, 2014
    THREE CHEERS FOR SKYRIM ASSET RE-USE!
     
  9. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Huzzah!

    Huzzah!

    Huzzah!
     
  10. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Don't sell it short, it also has elements from Portal in it (guiding beams to certain positions) and tower defense. It's very original.
     
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  11. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    :eek:

    Really?
     
  12. Izak

    Izak I Shot The ALBATROSS

    Jan 29, 2016
     
  13. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Cynical Cunt

    Jun 15, 2015
  14. Polynoid

    Polynoid Faceless creature in green pullover

    120
    Apr 13, 2016
    Bitch and moan, nothing i wouldn't have expected.
    Improvement is called ripoff, feedback reaction becomes theft, using assets turns to lazyness.

    Bias, bias everywhere, lol.
     
  15. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Cynical Cunt

    Jun 15, 2015
    Well they did ripoff the hermit crab design from Wasteland 2 so, yeah, that one was a ripoff.
     
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  16. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Yup. You have to make sure that your little data bugs can reach the "data stream", so a "decoder beam" is necessary to destroy sorta firewalls. So you do some Minecratportaling to clear the way, and then set down five turrets to protect your little data bug thingies from the sentinels in a little tower defense section.
     
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  17. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    Eh, if by improvement you mean according to what we got in the base game, I wouldn't call it improvement, but rather a band-aid on an oozing wound :shrug:
     
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  18. Izak

    Izak I Shot The ALBATROSS

    Jan 29, 2016
    All I saw being said here was that the DLC was fine, sure there's been nitpicking but you're basically on a Fan/Hate site, you should expect endless over analyzation.
     
  19. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    I see you actually got a few bites with this. Congratulations.
     
  20. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    That's sad... and kind of weird.