Fallout Tactics... What's wrong with it?

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by lucas., Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Morpoggel

    Morpoggel Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    I always thought the Fallout 3 Enclave PA looks a helluva lot like the Tactics PA.
     
  2. Urban Needles

    Urban Needles First time out of the vault

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    Is that your bases for not liking a game that came out before FO3 or just a general statement?
     
  3. Morpoggel

    Morpoggel Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    That was a general statement following a discussion about the Power Armors on the previous page...
     
  4. Jax Sparrow

    Jax Sparrow It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Pretty much, but not completely, they didn't catch that proportion... the over-sized shoulder pads, the cape, you know the details, and IIRC only the tesla armour looked similar to the Mid west BoS PAs, and the tesla armour is not a power armour. :?

    For a second there I thought you meant that the hellfire looks like the Mid west BoS PAs, boy that is kind-of a insult xD.
     
  5. lucas.

    lucas. Still Mildly Glowing

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    I think the cape on an PA sprite looks more like a bathroom curtain than a real cape... :P
     
  6. Morpoggel

    Morpoggel Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Well, the Tesla Armor is just a regular Enclave PA with some added bits and sparkly effects.

    And hell no, I really don't like the Hellfire armor so I would never make that comparison :P
     
  7. Jax Sparrow

    Jax Sparrow It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    I don't really think the tesla armour should be a PA at all, I mean the previous Fs was just an armour, and F3 is simply trampling what has been set by te previous games and tha'ts one of the things I don't approve of.
     
  8. Sephis

    Sephis It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    I enjoyed tactics, you need to appericate it for what it was. Nothing more and nothing less.
    What bugged me was the lack of animations for some really basic things (like weapons) every weapon looked the same, but that wouldn't be as bad if my melee weapons had their own thrust//stab animations like Fallout 1 & 2 did.
    now other then that, The lack of RPG elements was disappointing but it wasn't an RPG so I think personally that was acceptable.
    I think Tactics was and IS a very enjoyable game, and my CH was allowed to be crap cause I never used it.
     
  9. Jax Sparrow

    Jax Sparrow It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    I would not say that, you CHA may not be used manually, it's passive. With the CHA stat you gain ranks faster and higher ranks give you the opportunity to recruit better characters. If that's not enough it affects your bargains as well. I bet you already know that, but you sounded pretty sure that you're not using it at all in the quote I used.

    And one more thing nobody forbid you from having a low charisma score, you can have whatever CHA score you like.
     
  10. lucas.

    lucas. Still Mildly Glowing

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    Unless you want a team full of "pretty faces" I don't think CH is that important.


    There's a bunch of good initiates like Rebecca and Brian.


    Jax is shit.
     
  11. Jax Sparrow

    Jax Sparrow It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    I never said I wanted a team of "pretty faces" I always lower my CHA score to 4 and Stich had the highest CHA score, of 5. I have never had it higher than 5.

    The fact that nobody considers it an important statistic, including Lucas. and me doesn't make the stat any less important.

    I would appreciate it if you take it easy with the compliments as I meant to piss off nobody. Honestly!
     
  12. lucas.

    lucas. Still Mildly Glowing

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    I'm not trying to piss off anybody.


    What I meant is that you can still have a decent squad even with low CH.



    I always keep my CH at 5 to avoid getting ranks too slowly.
     
  13. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    I had my CHA at 2 and I did just great with Farsight, Stitch, Rebecca, Rage and Stevie.

    I keep my CHA at 2 in Fallout as well. It really doesn't do that much in there either.
     
  14. lucas.

    lucas. Still Mildly Glowing

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    Did you just removed the gas mask avatar?


    You're a horrible person... :/
     
  15. Sephis

    Sephis It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Oh, I know what CH affects in Tactics, but for me my team opens up pretty quickly.
    The first time I played tactics I chose a default character "Betty" I think, her ST score was so low I couldn't use heavy weapons when I was fighting mutants, or robots. I have since had much better luck by obviously making my own characters..
     
  16. GreyViper

    GreyViper Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Sephis pointed out the main flaw the lack of RPG elements was disappointing. And as squad based game, it didn't come close to Jagged Alliance 2. Then there was the over simplification and lack of replay value. I have started many new games in Tactics, but the first vanilla campagin maps are so boring. Thus I lose interest and go to play JA2 v1.13. But the sad thing is, it had potential, nice art and backstory. Another thing is how hard it is to mod it, sure there are few, but not that many as say compared to F2 or F3.
     
  17. Urban Needles

    Urban Needles First time out of the vault

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    The atmosphere was one of the few things that made me finish and replay the game.
     
  18. DirkGently

    DirkGently Still Mildly Glowing

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    I've only just started playing Fallout tactics, and i's pretty fun when the AI isn't being completely fucking retarded. And the encounter rates. Jesus fucking christ am I tired of running into forty fucking encounters when trying to walk across two grids. Hell, sometimes I can't even take two steps before it forces me into an encounter.
     
  19. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    Yeah, that's annoying, especially when you're cruising around in a vehicle and you get those maps with all the stumps and stones.

    In my last playthrough I didn't patch the game so I got the duplication bug: mighty handy to duplicate the books that raise Outdoorsman, 'cause that'll allow you to skip random encounters (which is a good thing).

    I hate preparing and equipping my squad to go to a mission, only to discover two behemoths on my way there. It just fucks up all your micromanagement.
     
  20. DirkGently

    DirkGently Still Mildly Glowing

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    I might find a way to un-patch my game; I got the triple pack from interplay and the patch was applied by default. I'd love to have high Outdoorsman. Although, it'll still stack up the encounters before i can move five feet. I kept getting DO YOU WISH TO ENCOUNTER LAME SHIT > NO X5 right on top of each other until it would force me to fight the encounter. then I' just leg it out of there. THen, repeat.