I need some help with my modded game. The main menu is loaded, or at least it tried to load, and then it just freeze. It happens right after I installed Viva New Vegas's Gameplay module, whereas before it was just fine and loaded normally. Even played through it and it was fine, too. Here's my load order: Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm TribalPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Navmesh Fixes and Improvements.esm YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm Landscape_Seam_Fix.esm Uncut Road to Legate's Camp.esm Ambient Temperature.esm JIP Selective-Fire.esm oHUD.esm BraveNewWorld.esm New Vegas Redesigned II.esm PHWHPAPVisuals.esm Cyberware.esm YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp Unofficial Patch Plus.esp Unofficial Patch Plus - Addendum.esp WMIMNV.esp WMIM Addendum.esp Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp FIXforLegionArmors.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp FPSWeaponWheel.esp JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp KeyBoy Hotkeys.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp FlashlightNVSE.esp Character Creation Streamlined.esp Simple DLC Delay.esp Vanilla UI Plus.esp CPI Icons.esp Enslave Gannon fix.esp Melee Reach Revised.esp Psycho and Slasher Bonus Damage Fix.esp DisableMuzzleFlashLights.esp Motion Sickness Reduction Mod.esp Tutorial Killer.esp NoTrapsPopup.esp FOVSlider.esp Game Tweaks..esp Core - YUP - WMIM Patch.esp Vurt's WFO.esp EnhancedGrass_NoVL.esp A Wasteland in Bloom.esp STDG.esp Book of Steel.esp Weapon Retexture Project.esp YUP - WRP Patch.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp Little More Lamplight.esp Burning Campfire.esp BC2.esp Bathroom Doors Fix.esp CIB Bighorners - HH.esp CIB Bighorners.esp Alsatian NCR Guard Dogs.esp NVAnimatedTerninalScreenSaver.esp OWB-Path Lights.esp JSawyer Ultimate.esp JSUE Addendum.esp Economy Overhaul.esp Economy Overhaul Addendum.esp Mojave Arsenal.esp Mojave Wildlife (Vanilla-Style + No Chanced).esp Mojave Raiders.esp Mojave Raiders Addendum.esp JSawyer Ultimate - Mojave Arsenal Patch.esp JSawyer Ultimate - Mojave Raiders Patch.esp Follower Tweaks.esp Changed Vendor Flags.esp BLEEDNV.esp BLEED Addendum.esp Unfound Loot.esp NPCsSprint.esp Real Recoil.esp Yukichigai Gameplay Tweaks.esp JIP Companions Command & Control.esp VNV Follower Tweaks.esp Quickthrow.esp JustModsAssorted.esp Qolore Gameplay Tweaks.esp GRA Scavenger Hunt Unbalanced.esp BetterNCRSupplyCache.esp Honest Hearts Workbench Crate Luck.esp Toxic Cloud Fix.esp SGO - CCS Compatible.esp VWBarterRepairCosts.esp VWPerceptionRangedAccuracy.esp Stat Choices.esp NPC Use Aid.esp Helmet Overlay.esp Enhanced Vision.esp Immersive Minigames.esp Immersive Primary Needs.esp Universal Item Sorter.esp Cyberware OWB.esp Cyberware-Quickthrow Patch.esp Gameplay - JSUE - WRP Patch.esp Gameplay - JSUE - YGT Patch.esp Gameplay - WMIM - JSUE Patch.esp Gameplay - YUP - BLEED Patch.esp FNVLODGen.esp tmzLODadditions.esp outsidebets.esp Uncut Extra Collection.esp CutMerged.esp No more giant manhole covers.esp Laurens_Bathroom_poetry.esp BraveNewWorld-ArmorReplacerChildNPCFix.esp BraveNewWorld-YUP.esp BraveNewWorld-OutsideBets.esp BraveNewWorld-UncutExtraCollection.esp NVR- Lore version.esp Voice dissonance fix.esp RaestlozFactionArmorEnhancement.esp All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp Explosive Sounds Overhaul.esp Combat Music.esp ImmersivePickupSoundsFNV.esp Clarity - Dark Nights.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Something to note: I replaced VNV's Character Expansion Revised mods with a combination of Brave New World + New Vegas Redesigned 2 (since the author successfully made them compatible), and it worked just fine before installing the Gameplay module While VNV didn't actually put most of them in the Gameplay module, I installed the recommended mods to replace Project Nevada as listed in 'Gameplay Mods to Avoid' in the guide Also, I'm using Mod Organizer 1 for this. I know I shouldn't, but at this point it's too late for me to make the switch now, because the amount of time and effort I imagined needed to install MO2 from scratch, even with the Viva New Vegas guide, is already putting a weight on my mental condition. So I'd like to at least play a playthrough or two with this one before making the switch as fast as of 2021. With that, I'll also note that because I'm using Fear&Loathing in New Vegas guide (which used MO1), before trying to plug in Viva New Vegas's mods in there (while also replacing the outdated and obsolete F&LNV mods), I got cut content mods installed BEFORE the UI mods. I also had body replacer mods, such as Type 3, Roberts and the individual mods for the DLCs. I had them disabled now, but still the game freeze on main menu. Despite the last two points, the game worked JUST FINE *BEFORE* installing the Gameplay module. So, in the meanwhile, I'll now commence trying to activate-deactivate each and every one of the Gameplay mods and see which one freezes the main menu.
Turns out the Helmet Overlay mod is the cause of the main menu freeze. I'm not sure why and I didn't get anything from reading the mod page, and I haven't taken a look at the .esp through xEdit, too. Still, I can live without it just fine. I re-activated the rest of Project Nevada alternatives, but the main menu loads comparably slower than before installing the Gameplay Module. Anyway, I'm actually finished modding the game as per VNV guide, but as per F&L I need to do the thing where I have to generate bash tags for each and every plugins. But it's an obvious pain in the ass, so I tried playing around and when I entered the Goodsprings Saloon to try Sunny Smiles's tutorial, the game just freeze on the loading screen Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Navmesh Fixes and Improvements.esm YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm TheHUDEditor.esm Landscape_Seam_Fix.esm Uncut Road to Legate's Camp.esm Ambient Temperature.esm JIP Selective-Fire.esm BraveNewWorld.esm New Vegas Redesigned II.esm TLD_Travelers.esm Freeside Redone.esm Lightweight Strip Overhaul.esm PHWHPAPVisuals.esm Cyberware.esm YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp Unofficial Patch Plus.esp Unofficial Patch Plus - Addendum.esp WMIMNV.esp WMIM Addendum.esp Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp FIXforLegionArmors.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp KeyBoy Hotkeys.esp The Weapon Mod Menu.esp FlashlightNVSE.esp Simple DLC Delay.esp Vanilla UI Plus.esp CPI Icons.esp Enslave Gannon fix.esp Melee Reach Revised.esp Psycho and Slasher Bonus Damage Fix.esp DisableMuzzleFlashLights.esp No more giant manhole covers.esp Motion Sickness Reduction Mod.esp Tutorial Killer.esp NoTrapsPopup.esp FOVSlider.esp Game Tweaks..esp Core - YUP - WMIM Patch.esp Vurt's WFO.esp EnhancedGrass_NoVL.esp A Wasteland in Bloom.esp STDG.esp Book of Steel.esp Distributed Necklaces and Chains.esp EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp Holster.esp Pip-Boy Light - Vanilla.esp Weapon Retexture Project.esp YUP - WRP Patch.esp WTH AMR Fix.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp B42Inertia.esp B42 Weapon Inertia - Config INI.esp Little More Lamplight.esp Burning Campfire.esp Better Burned Man.esp BC2.esp Bathroom Doors Fix.esp CIB Bighorners - HH.esp CIB Bighorners.esp Alsatian NCR Guard Dogs.esp NVAnimatedTerninalScreenSaver.esp OWB-Path Lights.esp JSawyer Ultimate.esp JSUE Addendum.esp Economy Overhaul.esp Economy Overhaul Addendum.esp Mojave Arsenal.esp Mojave Wildlife (Vanilla-Style + No Chanced).esp Mojave Raiders.esp Mojave Raiders Addendum.esp JSawyer Ultimate - Mojave Arsenal Patch.esp JSawyer Ultimate - Mojave Raiders Patch.esp YUP_MojaveArsenal.esp JSUE_BookOfSteel.esp Follower Tweaks.esp Changed Vendor Flags.esp BLEEDNV.esp BLEED Addendum.esp Unfound Loot.esp NPCsSprint.esp Real Recoil.esp Yukichigai Gameplay Tweaks.esp RaestlozFactionArmorEnhancement.esp JIP Companions Command & Control.esp VNV Follower Tweaks.esp Quickthrow.esp JustModsAssorted.esp Enhanced Vision.esp Simple Explosive Entry.esp Immersive Minigames.esp Immersive Primary Needs.esp Universal Item Sorter.esp Cyberware OWB.esp Cyberware-Quickthrow Patch.esp Qolore Gameplay Tweaks.esp GRA Scavenger Hunt Unbalanced.esp BetterNCRSupplyCache.esp Honest Hearts Workbench Crate Luck.esp Toxic Cloud Fix.esp Character Creation Streamlined.esp SGO - CCS Compatible.esp VWBarterRepairCosts.esp VWPerceptionRangedAccuracy.esp Stat Choices.esp NPC Use Aid.esp Gameplay - JSUE - WRP Patch.esp Gameplay - JSUE - YGT Patch.esp Gameplay - WMIM - JSUE Patch.esp Gameplay - YUP - BLEED Patch.esp Laurens_Bathroom_poetry.esp outsidebets.esp outsidebets_meyersfix.esp Uncut Wasteland.esp Uncut Extra Collection.esp CutMerged.esp TMCOTT - Restored.esp Mojave Raiders - TLD Patch.esp BraveNewWorld-ArmorReplacerChildNPCFix.esp BraveNewWorld-YUP.esp BraveNewWorld-OutsideBets.esp BraveNewWorld-UncutExtraCollection.esp BraveNewWorld-JSU.esp BraveNewWorld-MojaveRaiders.esp NVR- Lore version.esp Voice dissonance fix.esp Lightweight Strip Overhaul - Uncut Wasteland Patch.esp Lucky38Overhaul.esp Lore Friendly Armor Pack.esp FNVOppositeTraits.esp Improved Traits.esp Improved Traits Improved.esp Baddarkl Perk Overhaul.esp All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp Explosive Sounds Overhaul.esp Combat Music.esp Beyond The Beef Tweaks.esp The Law Won.esp vault22FloralOverhaul.esp CloudGrenades.esp Toasterizer.esp Burden to Bear Armor.esp ImmersivePickupSoundsFNV.esp Content - JSUE - Improved Traits Patch.esp Content - JSUE - Lore Friendly Armor Pack Patch.esp Content - JSUE - Opposite Traits Patch.esp Content - JSUE - Perk Overhaul Patch.esp Content - JSUE - Uncut Wasteland Patch.esp Content - Mojave Raiders - Uncut Wasteland Patch.esp Content - WFO - TLD Patch.esp Content - YUP - Perk Overhaul Patch.esp Content - YUP - TMCOTT Restored Patch.esp FNVLODGen.esp tmzLODadditions.esp Clarity - Dark Nights.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp So now I have some options: Merge plugins, especially the VNV's Module Resolution plugins to reduce plugin count Maybe follow F&L finishing guide, start generating bash tags to each and every plugin, then create a bashed patch Just nuke the whole thing and start from scratch with VNV and MO2's proper Or be a true glittering gem of hatred and uninstall New Vegas
I remembered that I haven't followed the INI tweaks of Viva New Vegas, which is different from Fear&Loathing's, so I did just that. Still the game freezes upon entering the loading screen to Goodsprings Saloon. Hell, I even found that the game would also freeze when entering Doc Mitchell's house. I finally resorted to manually creating merged patch by way of FNVEdit (creating an empty, merged patch plugin, upon which I 'Deep Copy Override into' with the records I wanted to merge patch), and created a merged patch for VNV's Gameplay and Content Conflict Resolution patches, and also another one for Brave New World patches. It helped, kinda, since I could finally enter Doc Mitchell's house normally, and also finally able to enter Goodsprings Saloon. And yet the game stuttered very, VERY badly despite playing on my brother's brand new PC, and I also encountered black objects in the saloon. Even worse, when exiting the saloon to start Sunny Smiles tutorial, the game would stutter even worse than before, whereas entering and exiting the General Store worked just fine. Who knows why, maybe I did the merge patch wrong, or perhaps even with Mod Limit Fix the PC's doomed to be unable to play beyond 135 plugin count. And so, that's it, folks. I'm now at my wit's end, and I think the only way to fix this is to nuke the entire thing, re-install New Vegas from scratch, then proceed to mod using Viva New Vegas's proper. May those who read this learned a lesson from my foul endeavor
