Future Bethesda titles to use Skyrim engine

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    In what will come as a surprise to no one, TES V: Skyrim's engine will be used for future Bethesda titles (read: Fallout 4, unless they buy the Arcanum license to make Arcanum 2 in the interim).<blockquote>“Yeah, I mean obviously, whatever Bethesda Game Studios works on after Skyrim will take advantage of the tech that they have developed,” he said to us in a phone interview last week.

    Hines continued: “But what that next product is or what it’s going to be? Everybody’s gonna have to wait and see.

    “Right now, it’s been used for Skyrim and that’s what our focus is on. We aren’t saying what they’re going to work on next.”</blockquote>Read up on Skyrim's Engine - dubbed the Creation Engine - on GameInformer.
  2. PowahAwemah

    PowahAwemah First time out of the vault

    Jun 5, 2010
    No moe Bethsada Fallout plz.
  3. Vik

    Vik It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 6, 2011
    That actually sounds good. Then again, it always does.
  4. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    I love it when they post bits of interviews one by one instead of just posting the whole thing.
  5. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    It gets hits, Ausir. You're not exactly shy on pulling out the stops to get hits yourself. It's how gaming sites roll, baby, competitive market. VG247 is massively successful. As for as I'm concerned you're all houwahs.

    What I like is how incredibly unsurprising each of their tidbits are. Still gets them hits.

    PS: almost forgot to say "told you so" vis-a-vis Bethesda abandoning Gamebryo.
    (do have to lulz at Bethesda taking the old concept of randomized sidequest and advertising them as RADIANT STORYTELLING. Oh Bethesda, do you ever change?)
  6. maggit

    maggit First time out of the vault

    Jun 2, 2008
    Where did you get that from? Arcanum? I doubt anyone remembers that franchise at all. Especially anyone at Bethesda.
  7. babadook

    babadook Lived Through the Heat Death

    Apr 2, 2005
    I still think this image look a bit weird:

    Should there not be more shadow in there? Where is the sun coming from? Shouldn't the tower put a shadow somewhere? Like on the rock it's standing on?
  8. CloudlessDruid

    CloudlessDruid Not a Soviet Droid Orderite

    Oct 11, 2008
    The lack of shadows didn't really upset me. Maybe it's in a position we didn't see (behind the stones and the tower) :roll:

    But indeed it's much better than GameBryo. That's somewhat of good news, I can't stand that crap engine that GameBryo is.
  9. Elhoim

    Elhoim It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jun 3, 2008
    I wonder how much of a new engine it is, though...

    KING SHIT It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Feb 25, 2010
    They never make a new IP so Fallout 4 is almost guaranteed.
  11. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    In what sense, specifically? I mean they're using Havok physics but that's pretty normal. They kinda make it sound like they're recycling Radiant AI but it sounds more like they dumped that bit of stupidity for something better.

    I wouldn't be shocked if it's highly recycled, but still, nothing indicates that, directly.

    Shadows are last-gen.

  12. Mettle

    Mettle Still Mildly Glowing

    Nov 9, 2007
    I agree, the image strikes me as odd, neither the ledges and protrusions of the tower or the shrubbery to the right of the tower seems to project any shadows, and if the sun was in the middle of the sky it would. Seems the light is coming from "everywhere".
  13. maggit

    maggit First time out of the vault

    Jun 2, 2008
    I meant the speculation about Beth buying Arcanum IP, Brother None. That would be just adding insult to injury from Beth. I thought you were being serious. And that just made me panic.

    Nevertheless. I'm sure the press will love Skyrim even though there won't be any plot at all. :roll: Oh right, it'll be randomized and completely devoid of you feeling engaged in it.

    There was only one time I felt immersion/engagement in Oblivion, when my character turned into a vampire and I wanted to reverse the process. Just this once. Apart from that I didn't even bother finishing it. Just like Fallout 3.
  14. babadook

    babadook Lived Through the Heat Death

    Apr 2, 2005
    Exactly, which is the same way as gamebryo did it, which makes me think it's based on the same algorithms (as in reused). It's like if objects cannot cast shadows but the surroundings (=the height map) can. It makes sense since shadows are usually quite expensive in terms of calculations but the quote from the article says otherwise. The engine is dead! Long live the engine!
  15. Mettle

    Mettle Still Mildly Glowing

    Nov 9, 2007
    You probably would'nt notice it at a quick glance or when playing it, or rather I reckon that most of their audience does'nt really care.

    Even so, I am a bit surprised that they don't have those shadows there, I seem to remember quite a bit of criticism about it.
  16. Kerr-Plomb

    Kerr-Plomb It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 1, 2009
    The game is months away and the engine is brand new.

    I doubt they're reusing much as gamebryo is not by them.
    Then again the Source engine reused old q3 engine parts and was hailed as the nonplusultra.
  17. babadook

    babadook Lived Through the Heat Death

    Apr 2, 2005
    Ahh but we do notice it unconsciously whether we want to or not. This is of course a minor issue for a game (since gameplay is far more important), but stating that they fixed it explicitly in the new engine is stretching it in my opinion. On the other hand I am judging a graphics engine from one picture here so there's not much backing my words really (I do like to be the first one to point out shadow problems when ever I get the chance though).

    Yeah, if they wanted to show something like that off they should have included pictures illustrating just that.
  18. sea

    sea Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 5, 2009
    I'm almost positive that the Skyrim engine is nothing more than good old Gamebryo with some new features like dynamic weather and physics-based animation. The lighting does not look all that much different from Fallout 3 (the normal maps and "shadows" have the same look to them), and I don't see any light coming from the sun... there also doesn't seem to be anything like ambient occlusion to give the scene more depth, either.

    However, the quality of the art is definitely very good, and on consoles especially, that's more important than the underlying technology. Even Oblivion looks good today if you discount the NPCs, so I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda is more concerned with improving character animation and the like than anything else. My guess is that the new engine name was chosen to avoid the stigma that has developed against Gamebryo, rather than because the core technology is any different. And let's face it, Bethesda simply does not have the resources on hand to build a next-gen engine from scratch in conjunction with a huge open-world game. They're actually a pretty small team (about 100 I think), compared to the 1000+ that worked on say, Grand Theft Auto IV.
  19. dev

    dev Still Mildly Glowing

    Sep 25, 2004
    (click to enlarge)
  20. LinkPain

    LinkPain Mildly Dipped

    Jan 18, 2011
    Fun graphics , but most will dump shadows to low . So all that "sparkle" is going to hurt eyes .
    Unless we all pack 200+ $ video cards .

    And wiki says children will be present hahahaha !
    Another mod for killing children is preparing .

    Also this look much better from third person view than from first person . Similar to Gothic , 'course Gothic 4 failed miserably and not from graphics .
    If Skyrim is just graphics , well then , whoever buys it has either too much money or doesn't know internet that well (a complete retard) .