Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Tagaziel, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    My brother needs to know what bass guitar brand is good and affordable.

    Also, let this be a generic guitar topic.
  2. Thomas de Aynesworth

    Thomas de Aynesworth Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Nov 9, 2010
    I own a Gibson, it didn't cost me too much, but it is acoustic.

    For bass you might want to try checking out some of the Rogues or the Ibanez brands.
  3. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    For bass I'd recommend Yamaha. They make very affordable and good beginner's instruments and also very good hi-end instruments.
    Ibanez is also a good choice.
    I play guitar, both electric and classical. My main electric is an Ibanez RG550 with a shiny new steel pickguard and DiMarzio Evolution at the bridge. I just love that guitar.
    My classical is a cheap-ass Yamaha G230. It sounds fine, though. Can't get much more tone for the price (got it at a flea market for like 50€ or something like that).
    But I'm thinking about buying a new one in the 600€ range.
    The Hanika beginner guitars seem to be quite nice, and also Höfner makes nice guitars. Gotta try 'em out sometime.
    My amplifiers are all Engl. I've got an Engl Savage 60 and a Rackhead 860. Cab's a Red Shadow Silvertube Cab with Eminence V12 Legends in it. Looks painfully ugly, but it sounds great.
    I also got a Marshall 8412 standing around and a Randall RH100G2 top. I really need to get rid of that shit some day.
    /edit: 300th post. This is SPARTA!
  4. Public

    Public Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    May 18, 2006
    I've got Jim Decon Jazz bass guitar, though I never had any other bass I love my Jim Decone and I believe is perfect.
    It might be a blind love, but I don't give a damn...I love her...

    The red one, others are just best friends.

    It's a limited version, so it's definately hard to find it.
  5. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    Brother thanks for the advice, he'll look into Ibanez.

    What's your opinion on Encore E20?
  6. mobucks

    mobucks woof Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    there is a website with excellent user feedback, to help you some at least. i think. So just input your price range and read reader reviews.
  7. Recommending guitars is bullshit.

    You should have your brother play them in the stores, and shop around.
  8. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    I read this post as if Hugh Laurie spoke it softly into my ear.

    It was awesome.
  9. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    ))<>(( speaketh the truth.
    It's never a good idea to buy an instrument just because it's brand A or model Y. He should test the models available in the local guitar shop, twiddle a bit around with different body types etc.... Tastes differ, so there is no "best guitar".
  10. sea

    sea Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 5, 2009
    You can get a pretty cheap Fender Squier Jazz Bass or Precision Bass. They're quite good for the money and very affordable - you can definitely use them to play live with other people and even professionals could get away with one. Epiphone also have some good instruments at that price point, but I think the Squier build quality is better.

    As for guitars... I only own one technically, but my brother has a few and I can use them more or less as I please.

    The guitar I own is an Epiphone SG-Special, modeled after a Gibson SG. It's a pretty solid guitar for the money, but I'm not a huge fan of its "bitey" tone all the time... definitely more suited to classic rock than anything else.

    The one I use more often is my brother's, an Epiphone Explorer Prophecy with a Floyd Rose bridge and EMG pickups. It's pretty much as "metal guitar" as you can get, and seeing as how I play lots of metal, well, that works out fine for me. Tuning is a bit awkward with the Floyd Rose, but other than that it's a very nice guitar that plays amazingly smooth. Good tone too, though definitely not as "fat" as something like a Les Paul.

    I also have a Denver DF 44S, which is a nice acoustic guitar... despite being quite cheap at about $140, it has an extremely bright and warm sound, without being boomy or overbearing. Definitely an awesome value for someone like me, who wants an acoustic guitar to just sort of tool around with, without being a really serious acoustic player.
  11. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    After listening to this:
    And this:
    I decided to go to the nearest tobacco store tomorrow and get a frickin' cigar box. Time to get the blues.
  12. SkuLL

    SkuLL Chad McRealman Orderite

    Sep 6, 2009
    Seems to me like certain people talk a lot about the equipment - as if they've reached some level of guitar God-ness where their skill no longer plays a role and it's down to the most minuscule details about their guitar/amp/stings.

    Sort of like when you hear people argue the shit over the type/length/material/brand of their skis and what's good and what's not and what totally sucks. Then you have the actual good skier that doesn't care what he's standing on, because he knows he can shred.

    [youtube][/youtube]Not a dig at anyone in this thread at all, just sayin... how much difference is there really? :shrug:
  13. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    Equipment can't be a substitute for skill, but equipment definitely determines the type of sound you get out of an instrument.
  14. Ravager69

    Ravager69 Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 21, 2007
    1) Quality - having a guitar that sounds like shit after 2 years of usage isn't the best thing IMO. Also, high-end guitars really do sound better than the low-end ones.

    2) Comfort - some guitars fit your body, other don't. Some make your hand and\or neck hurt, others don't.

    It's about getting the best for you. As for me, I own a Richwood RD-12:


    Cheap and decent, especially since I play for less than a year and still suck badly at it.

    EDIT sorry for leaving the big-ass picture, it's hidden now
  15. SkuLL

    SkuLL Chad McRealman Orderite

    Sep 6, 2009
    I just got one the other day off Ebay for about $30. It's a surprisingly awesome-sounding supercheap acoustic.


    Just what I need to take my skills to the next level, which is... learning the chords. :smug:

    But yeah, it's definitely all about personal comfort. That's why I often don't get the 'debate' surrounding it. And by 'debate' I mean people trying to convince each other that a certain brand/model is irrefutably better than the other. Again - nothing I've seen in this thread, just speaking from experience.
  16. Ausdoerrt

    Ausdoerrt I should set a custom tit

    Oct 28, 2008
    Better yet, shovel guitars!
  17. Since you are the only one in this thread with well constructed sentences, I will respond to the thread topic via your quote.

    I agree with the above statement, but I believe it requires more explanation. Certain types of music requires equipment tailored for its sound. For example, modern rock and metal music has various types of sub-genres and playstyles that require amplifiers to produce certain types of tones and distortion.

    If you wanted to play Stoner Rock, you have to be able to handle your equipment. A novice with experience with the equipment needed and the specific play-style will be able to play Holy Mountain or (Better) than a virtuoso classical player sporting an unmodified Stratocaster on the clean channel. The notes might be played more accurately by the virtuoso, but the ability to emote and understand the song "Therefore, improvise and make musical sense of the sound" will be in the hands of the novice.

    Skill is needed more than anything to be able to be considered a good guitarist, but skill in "what" areas is the specific question that needs to be answered.

    Above all, the quality of music produced by a guitar is the ability for the player to emote and communicate effectively through their equipment, rather than be technically proficient.

    This causes the player to question themselves before buying equipment. It is an unpopular philosophy, since most people like instant gratification and an answer that reflects the decisions of other peoples experiences that aren't their own.

    So, everyone in this thread, ignore my above post and do what you want.
  18. SkuLL

    SkuLL Chad McRealman Orderite

    Sep 6, 2009
    ))<>(( I take it you play metal? What style? And are you any good?

    (Sorry, I don't check the Order Metal Thread, maybe you've already talked about it there).

    It's just that you mentioned Stoner Rock and from Twinkie's metal mixtape that he sent me, Stoner Rock is the one style I actually quite like.
  19. Stompie

    Stompie Mildly Dipped

    Apr 2, 2006
    Epiphone SG bass. Affordable, once it's set up, it will do him just fine.