Man, you guys are REEEEEEEALLY pissed...

Discussion in 'Fallout: Piece of Shit (PS2, XBOX, My Lower Intest' started by Swiffness, Sep 19, 2003.

  1. Swiffness

    Swiffness First time out of the vault

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    Aug 14, 2003
    I just saw the BOS trailer and it looks to be the next Daikatana.

    But from all the posts I've viewed in this forum, I get the impression that:

    ALL consoles are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

    ALL action games are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

    ALL Fallout games other than Fallout 1 are garbage. If you like any of them, you're not a "real" Fallout fan.

    ALL RPGs, other than turn-based, 3rd-person view, single player RPGs, are crap. If you like them you're a moron.

    And finally...

    "Chucky" is the antichrist. He should be tortured to death and his family exterminated.
     
  2. Azarskittar

    Azarskittar First time out of the vault

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    Jul 31, 2003
    Although I don't like Fallout: BOS at all, I have to say I agree with him.
     
  3. Montez

    Montez So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Jun 20, 2003
    Nah, I doubt most people here feel that way. Console games are for the most part action-oriented, and with a few exceptions lack the depth of PC games, but I personally would own every console out there if I had the money. It's more just disbelief that IPlay would make a FO game for a console instead of a PC, I think.

    Same as above

    Some have this opinion, some don't. I think FO was a much better game than FO2, but I enjoyed FO2 a lot as well. Tactics was a let down for me, but many people here really liked it and still make mods for it.

    I think you're reading the PoS forum too much. In the GD forum many people have listed games other than this type in their Top Ten Games lists.

    I think the antichrist would be smarter than Chuckie is.
     
  4. Gus

    Gus So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Jun 16, 2003
    Fallout 2 is a great game! You're the moron Swiffer!
     
  5. Swiffness

    Swiffness First time out of the vault

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    Aug 14, 2003
    Idiot.

    You're obviously not a REAL Fallout fan if you like F2.
     
  6. Ozrat

    Ozrat Antediluvian as Feck
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    Apr 2, 2003
    I thought Kaikatana bombed...?

    Well, its kind of hard to have nice comments in bastard forum born out of hatred... Besides, Chucky is the AntiFallout, not the AntiChrist. Get the facts straight, yo!

    P.S. Is your name supposed to be Swiffness or Swiftness?
     
  7. Azarskittar

    Azarskittar First time out of the vault

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    Jul 31, 2003
     
  8. Ozrat

    Ozrat Antediluvian as Feck
    Orderite

    Apr 2, 2003
    I said bombed!
    bombed=flop

    Not da bomb!
    da bomb=da shit
     
  9. Vermaxx

    Vermaxx First time out of the vault

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    Sep 19, 2003
    You don't like ANY action games? Not even Metal Gear? I do think its harsh to say liking them makes you a moron, particularly when playing PC games of ANY genre is not exactly grounds for acceptance to Mensa. Fallout is great but sometimes you need something faster-paced.


    I'm not trying to insult you with this one. What did you think it was? I looked at it and said "Oh cool, Diablo hack'n'slash in the Fallout universe!" I did not expect character development, plot, conversation, etc. In short, I did not expect an RPG. I don't really see how someone could have been mislead.

    Or are you more referring to the game differences, such as the GLUT of weapons, ammo, and coordinated enemies in overly-large bases and cities? I must admit, it was Fallout in name and equipment only, but I find it fun if you just want to shoot things for a while.

    And just so everyone doesn't brand me an FBOS supporter, I'm not. From what I've seen its just a rehash of Tactics on the XBOX, and I already bought that game for a superior machine with superior controls.
     
  10. Gus

    Gus So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Jun 16, 2003
    EDIT: why bother.
     
  11. Montez

    Montez So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Jun 20, 2003
    No, I meant "refer to the reasons I gave above". I like action games, and I think Metal Gear Solid is one of the best all-around games I've ever played. I said that I would buy every console out there if I could afford it, not that action gamers were morons and consoles sucked.


    I knew it would be 90% combat, I just expected it to be a better game all around. I loved combat in FO and FO2, and I was expecting it to be the same in FOT - instead they just copied Jagged Alliance's combat system. Also, there are many tactical games that came out before it that were far superior, so it was a let down in that category as well. I thought the graphics were uglier than the previous Fallouts, and I didn't like it's plot or adaption of the Fallout setting. I don't really think it was that bad a game overall, it just didn't meet my expectations and didn't hold my interest.
     
  12. Odin

    Odin Carbon Dated and Proud
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    Apr 2, 2003
    I think Montez kinda captures it, but as to FOT..

    The combat in JA2 was much, much better than FOT, but I did play through FOT (believe it or not) and sometimes it was funny other times no. The main reason we don't like FOT is that it has the Fallout name branded to it, yet it stayes from the main story/setting (ie no gas/oil left in the world or just scares etc..etc..)..
     
  13. Sykor

    Sykor First time out of the vault

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    Oct 14, 2003
    Are you insulting Fallout 2?. Fallout 2 was equal to, if not greater than Fallout 1. And whats with you and this RPG business. There are many great RPG's that arn't turn based, 3rd person of singleplayer. Morrowind, Baldurs gate 1 and 2, arcanum, daggerfall, icewind dale 1 and 2, diablo 1 and 2. Don't talk out of your ass.
     
  14. VooDoo_Dolly

    VooDoo_Dolly First time out of the vault

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    Oct 13, 2003
    Yeah... I think Arcanum and Morrowind are very good games. Arcanum has some very good ideas but was a bit boring. And i can't play Morrowind without making notes of everything :D
    Still think that Fallout 2 is the best RPG ever... and much better than 1.[/quote]
     
  15. k-7

    k-7 First time out of the vault

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    Nov 3, 2003
    wtf?

    whats a REAL Fallout Fan??? Are u stupid or something?

    Someone who says "Fallout 2 is a good game" is a Fallout
    Fan. Only because there are people who thing FO1 is better than
    FO2, that does not mean that a REALFOF have to like
    FO1 and dislike FO2. I never played FO1 and i LOVE FO2. But
    i don´t thing i would like FO1, because someone telled me
    theres a timelimit ore something, but im sure i will buy it someday,
    just because i want to know what happend with the vault dweller,
    Master, tand and more.
    But now... Fallout 2 ist the best game i EVER EVER EVER EVER saw. And i play computer games since 1991 and began with a commodore64 ;).

    So don´t say something about Fo2 or i mutate to Frank Horrigan :evil:
     
  16. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    Hm. I don't want to start the same discussion over and over again, but I still have some problems with the story/setting issue. Where in Fallout Tactics is it stated that the cars still run on gasoline? Nowhere. I agree that the exhaustion fumes are a dead give-away that such is indeed the case, but still. And the Gas Station special encounter isn't proof either, it doesn't really work, does it? It looks like it hasn't been in use since..., well, since the outbreak of the war. And what with all the...

    * sees Roshambo move closer *

    Uhm...

    Anyway, I was thinking this: what if Fallout Tactics would have been given a totally different name (let say, "Post-Apoc Troopers") and would have let out the name "Fallout" altogether? Wouldn't anyone have said: "Hey, hasn't anyone noticed yet that that new game, "Post-Apoc Troopers", is like really really influenced by Fallout?" You get the point.

    How can you possibly say that? The graphics of Fallout and Fallout 2 were nice in the nineties (when I still had a 15" screen), but when I play those games nowadays on my 19" screen, I find the graphics totally crappy. Fallout Tactics has superior graphics: higher resolutions, anti-aliased tiles, anti-aliased characters. Or wait, you are of course referring to the hairy Deathclaws, right? You hate all, all of the graphics in Fallout Tactics because the Deathclaws have hair and aren't reptile-like as they were in Fallout and Fallout 2? Hm. Right. Okay. I get it.

    Last, but not least: I think I kind of agree with Swiffness. We can't possibly deny that there are some - not to say: a whole bunch - of Fallout-purists on NMA. I personally don't seem to care as much for the strict continuity of the setting and plot. I like the overall atmosphere of the Fallout universe. The loneliness, the deserted wastelands, the ruins, the drugs, the wacky weapons, mutants, ghouls, bordellos... These elements were present in Fallout Tactics as well. So they made a few mistakes, so some of the developers were probably morons, so what? They made a better effort than those f***-ups that are making FOPOS, right?

    * feels Roshambo breathing down his neck *

    Bwah, you know how I think about it. I'll keep quiet (for) now.
     
  17. Ratty Sr.

    Ratty Sr. Ratty, except old Moderator Orderite

    Apr 23, 2003
    Yeah, they are. But that doesn't mean they can't be fun.

    Games that offer a lot of mindless action are good, games that offer nothing BUT mindless action are crap. Example: Quake 3 is crap, Half Life is not.

    You read too many Roshambo's posts...

    Same as previous.

    Thanks for the tip.
     
  18. k-7

    k-7 First time out of the vault

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    Nov 3, 2003
    Hmm.... Fallout 3 with the same graphic as fallout 1 and 2 would be enough. For a good rpg u don´t need good graphics!
    FO2 is the best game with that graphic!
    Im sure fallout3 will have a better graphic than 1&2 but if u ask me its more important to make a good story, good quests, etc. like in FO1&2 as an huge engine with murder graphics and a storyline like Super Mario bros.
    FO-Tactics don´t exists for me, because ITS NOT Fallout...., its just a wannabestoryclone with better graphics.

    And Fallout for console..... that must be an idea from someone
    who knows how a headshot feels......
     
  19. Ratty Sr.

    Ratty Sr. Ratty, except old Moderator Orderite

    Apr 23, 2003
    Ratty's recipe for a game:

    50% gameplay
    30% graphics
    15% story
    5% sound

    So don't dis graphics. Ugly graphics are the main reason why I don't play Fallout 2 anymore. And one of the main reasons why I can't stand any of Troika's games. Give us smooth and crispy 3D!
     
  20. JJ86

    JJ86 A Smooth-Skin

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    Apr 2, 2003
    Swiffer, when you try to oversimplify things by using blanket statements it generally makes you appear to be less than intelligent. Speaking for myself, I don't play console games anymore. I used to but then got bored with the quality. Maybe I grew up too much and looked for something more interesting. I enjoy some action games but there is a glut of them so I don't buy them all, only the better ones that have something that separates them from the rest. RPG's are really a specialty game niche, there really are specific definitions for the genre which very few computer games meet the criteria. Just because some people apply the name to a game like Half-Life or Deus-Ex does not make it an RPG.

    Daikatana? I've barely heard of it and never played it. Seriously nobody wants to kill anyone involved with Interplay or it would have been done a long time ago.