Mods that would make Fallout 4 fun

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Charwo, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. Charwo

    Charwo Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 9, 2017
    Almost all of us agree that Fallout 4 is garbage....well, not quite garbage, it's a medicore game and a TERRIBLE story. Instead of focusing on what we'd want changed about the story and dialouge, let's think out what we would change MECHANICALLY to make the game more fun. I personally have never played a Far Cry game, but I hve played Skyrim and New Vegas and I have some ideas of what modders could do with the mechanics to make it interesting:

    1. Fallout Shelter character mechanics: have settlers have names and form families and make babies and you can train the adults with special fascilities to make them smarter or stronger and send them out on missions instead of you.

    2. Hunting. Specifically making something like Hunterborn for Skyrim:

    3. Horses, and not just for you. Have raiders sweep down in force and try and pillage your settlement on horseback like Mongols, or come up in boats like Vikings. Have them harass and besiege communities so they can't go out and you know, slavage or trade or gather food.

    4. Helgen Reborn:
    Take pre-existing cities like Concord and Lexington or parts of Boston and and basically play a bunch of missions to take back the area, stop things from spwaingand the place will slowly repair and clean itself as you do quests.

    The thing is with a Bethesda game, you'll never have fun with it while giving a damn about the main story. Although in this case, the story isn't so dumb it hurts your brain (Fallout 3), it's just badly written.
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  2. Canaris

    Canaris First time out of the vault

    Mar 29, 2009
    >"Map Resize Project" - i know it would be a gargantual task but Fallout 4 map would need to be resized like 5-10 times while retaining the amount of locations. Unlike Skyrim, i never felt lost in F4, i never just wander off in random direction and just travel through forest or mountains. There was never a moment where i got caught in the open by a radstorm or night, far from a settlement and shelter - you know what im saying.

    >"Settlement Redux" - remove all of those small fucking locations that are your settlements ( Hangman Alley, Coastal Cottage, that type of shit ) and instead leave the player with 4-5 MASSIVE ones that allow player to really go nuts with building. Im talking about something like V111-SHills-RedRocket-Concord combined size, Croup Manor that takes the entire Nahant Penninsula etc.

    >"I own it" - make the every item in the pre existing inhabited location OWNED and one that needs to be stolen. It really fucks my Alternative Starts thief/escaped slaves playthroughs when im suppose to be poor and struggle to survive but i can literally waltz into locations and just take everything including meds, ammo and weapons.

    >"Im the Boss" - make the end game fun by allowing you to have some unique features depending on the faction you supported - MM gives you the ability to command and deploy squads of soldiers, handle recruitment, training, logistics and equipment, Institute gives you the ability to perform some experiments, breeding creatures, producing synths, BOS gives you access to BOS armoury and Paladins backup etc etc etc ( I have no idea what RR should have nor would i care - im trying to forget they even exist in this game )

    Of course i dont include stuff like "Make choices matter " or "have a fucking RPG elements in the dialogue" because that would mean making another game.
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  3. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Fun is subjective, people find candycrush to be the epitome of fun.
  4. Alkuam

    Alkuam Lurker

    Apr 4, 2016
    That combined with making guns/ammo more scarce and some more crafting would make a nice alternative playstyle.

    Seeing people's interpretations of horse mutations could be interesting.

    I'd like to see something akin to "Powered Power Armor."
    I liked the variety in that better than what we got from bethesda, plus a bitching betty..
  5. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Yeah, it's one of the many, many aspects of Fallout 4 that is good at its core but is bogged down by laziness. All the armor parts fit on the same frames? No improvements to be made to the frames? Fuck no.
    Have different types of frames instead, one for T-45/T-60 (T-60 is BoS-improved T-45, deal with it), one for T-51 and one for APA. The frames have different stats for strength increase and fuel lifetime. T-45/60 is common but uses normal energy cells that run out, T-51 and APA are rare and require only a single refueling operation but then operate indefinitely (nuclear fuel doesn't last forever, and I think it's only fair to have the player jump through some hoops to let them use these frames). Refueling these frames is tricky and requires some more effort, though. An option would be to convert the original generators of these frames to energy cell use like the T-45/60.
    Add more frame modifications that affect fuel economy and stats. Using T-60 plates requires modifications to T-45 frames.
    Plates only fit the correct frame, of course.
    Also, maybe add a "civilian" frame, like a powerloader that was used for construction work.

    Other mods that would be good besides the obvious "add actual gameplay" mods are, as mentioned above, "Blow up mapsize" and, adding to that, working vehicles. Just let us drive the Highwayman again. Or at least a motorcycle.
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  6. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I think to a degree FO4 had some cool upgrades for power armour which are feasable with postwar techies, but IMO i'm betting 5 bucks they based it off that mod.
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  7. Alkuam

    Alkuam Lurker

    Apr 4, 2016
    I got that feeling too.
  8. Canaris

    Canaris First time out of the vault

    Mar 29, 2009
    Oh and mod that replaces Corvega with a glassed impact crater of a nuke...
    That fucking place tanks my fps even when just looking at it from the distance, even at night...
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  9. Javier Solís

    Javier Solís First time out of the vault

    Jul 1, 2017
    A mod that adds a DT system would be nice.
  10. Ballowers100

    Ballowers100 First time out of the vault

    Oct 10, 2016
    I never purchased Fallout 4 to this day today still since November 10th, 2015, but Steam did have Fallout 4 for a free weekend on May 26th, 2017 to May 29th, 2017 and I played for a total of thirty eight hours.

    These are the mods that would make playing Fallout 4 more enjoyable for me to play from what I played.

    A mod that adds back the armor and weapons degradation system.

    A mod that adds bullet crafting.

    A mod that makes ALL NPC's killable.

    A mod that removes the dialogue wheel and adds back the texts lines sentences. I know there is a mod for this already, but when you see the four choices you always get and that they are always a Yes, Yes, No, Yes (Sarcasm), shows how badly written Bethesda Game Studios wrote the dialogue and quests in Fallout 4.

    A mod that removes the four choices Yes, Yes, No, Yes (Sarcasm) dialogue options and has better dialogue written for NPC's and quests.

    Here's a picture I have saved for two years almost from the mod, when some person posted it on a website that I don't remember what website it was from, that shows how bad the writing in Fallout 4 is.

    That's about all the mods for now that I can think of that would make playing Fallout 4 more enjoyable for me to play.
  11. Canaris

    Canaris First time out of the vault

    Mar 29, 2009
    Hell to the no, unless its realistic 10 000 bullets fired before maintnance is needed.

    There are several already that do that thing.
  12. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007
    That's not unrealistic in a "kid with a hammer" game that for the most part only offers shooting.

    I would add that incoming attacks that strike the weapon, should contribute to its degradation and need for maintenance.
  13. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    A button that closes the game and opens New Vegas.
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  14. Zerginfestor

    Zerginfestor dear god, the scrapping

    Apr 18, 2015
    Have the Raider faction actually have an impact in the main game (such as a Raider ending that kicks every other factions' ass by doing things Orky and blowing shit up by stocking nukes in an area and squeezing the trigger).

    Have Unarmed actually be fun with attack animations, and dual-wielded weapons. More variety and crazier weapon mods.

    Nicer looking armor pieces instead of "let's make everything look fat". i mean ffs, Why does Heavy Combat and Heavy Metal Chest pieces have the main front torso piece look like they're sagging?....why?
  15. Canaris

    Canaris First time out of the vault

    Mar 29, 2009
    Weapon breaking after 10 shots is extremely unrealistic, BORING and simply turns game into chore.
    AR-15 has something between 10k to 18k rounds before maintnance is needed - if you want that plus a huge overhaul of repair mechanics with different parts swapping, cleaning kits etc - im absolutely for it.
    If its gonna look like in F3/NV where Assault Rifle breaks after firing 2 magazines - hell no.
  16. DeadHill

    DeadHill First time out of the vault

    Jul 4, 2017
    K, horsies died out in the Fallout universe but k... Then again, so did the cats according to Mr House, yet they appeared in the best game ever (Fallout 4).
  17. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    A Pipboy game tape with Fallout 1 and 2 on it.
  18. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Nov 26, 2007

  19. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    What game are you playing? Not even fucking Fallout 3 did this.
  20. Canaris

    Canaris First time out of the vault

    Mar 29, 2009
    Fallouts 3 double barreled shotgun begins to jam after 50 shots ( from full durability ) and breaks after ~120..
    Combat shotgun breaks after ~150.
    Hunting Rifle after ~130
    So yeah, maybe not 10 but still absurd and immersion breaking amount.

    Weapon durability is Bugfestas excuse to give good shit early and not have it break the game. Just like Power Armour in F4 and their retarded fusion cores for something that was specifically stated to last a looong time.