Mods you hate or dislike

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by 0wing, Dec 23, 2016.

  1. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Hey, it's kinda what I've been doing after my initial response to the OP :D
    I don't really see much of a problem with disliking certain mods and discussing that on this board. Like the myriad of slutty outfit mods for Skyrim and Fallout 4. There's some high quality mesh and texture work there, but in my opinion it's kinda wasted towards outfits that don't really fit the tone of the game. That's my own taste, because as I've stated before, I don't really like modding a game to be another game. If I wanted another game, I'd play that instead. But hey, others like it, so more power to them.
    I like how DOS seems to think that by being overly mean he can "stick it" to those meany bullies who dare to criticise mods. It really is perfectly valid to criticise opinions, so fire away. Spiders, snakes, rats, insects, skunks etc. are not deplorable, though, that's just wrong and a complete misrepresentation of the ecosystem :P
     
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  2. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

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    Apr 22, 2016
    I have to admit I am confused from what I just read (this entire thread.).

    A little background about me to temper responses;
    I am a modder (not for the fallout franchise, but other games.)
    I am a game developer in my free time (No I will not elaborate.)
    I'm a business man

    Now I understand that the concept of feedback from the general public is being scrutinized. However I can't see a viable reason why it is being debated. The reason I say this is because of perspective. At no point in time can another individual make a judgement on another persons perspective and be "accurate". (I strongly feel art cannot be judged simply because, I find it to be a form of perspective communication.)

    However judgments that focuses on art do generate something. Demographics. Demographics are viable statistics that help developers such as myself gauge a perspective audience. For modders these same demographics can aid them in popularity, and give them a leg up on their competition if they are trying to develop a stand alone product. However this does not include all modders, as the vast majority of modders are only in it for fun, and that I feel is wonderful.

    But casting aside statements on the product makes no sense to me, if you are modding just because (insert random reason), then why does the feedback matter? You aren't collecting the data for anything useful, what it sounds like is someone trying to massage their ego.

    Now bear in mind that my intention is not to deflate anyone here, but at least try to see the larger picture generated content is. A lot of people don't know this but, a lot of game developers look towards modders to innovate, mostly because the relatively low risk that entails. Examples: (Mojang/Microsoft, Bethesda, Valve).

    While this is great from a business perspective, it does tend to trample on those who don't wish to generate feedback. But the data generated is still valid and is often used else were to gauge responses to up coming features.

    Therefore I submit this, don't censor anyone when they have an opinion on a product. Because you cannot justifiably state whether or not the content creator is or is not using the data. However if you do not wish for your product to be judged in any fashion then do not distribute your content publicly. At the same time I must admit, making any statements based on generalization such as "like" or "dislike" when referring to the product as a whole is always subtractive even when styled as positive.

    TLDR version:
    Let people have their say, it's not the end of the world, and not something to get butt hurt over.
     
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  3. DirtyOldShoe

    DirtyOldShoe Some kind of lucky

    Dec 15, 2015
    I am fine with you criticizing my criticisms of your criticisms of mods and would not criticize you for it.

    They shouldn't have to, there is something wrong with Earth that if you share a gift you should expect shitty talent-less people to surface and tell you how to do things or what you objectively did wrong.

    I know some things about you. I know that you don't like your criticisms being criticized. And I know that you have no creativity. I know that you are frustrated. and I know that you have a sense of entitlement. I also know that you don't know what goes into modding.

    I think that you are ignorant and lazy. Your posts are lazy and your arguments are lazy.

    I think that your comments are lazy and uninformed. I think you lack in skill in many areas in life and I would suggest that going forward you put more thought and effort into your words. There may be some truth to a small amount of what you say, but your approach comes across as butthurt or entitled.
    That was my constructive criticism of you.

    Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one
     
  4. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

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    Apr 22, 2016
  5. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    This is just hilarious.

    Sounds more like this should go down the path of the vats...
     
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  6. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

    858
    Apr 22, 2016
    I feel I must agree.
     
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  7. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Wouldn't you.

    If you release something public, people are going to say good and bad things about it. That's life, if you can't handle people criticizing your work then don't release it.

    I don't mind being criticized or having a debate. It's you making presumptions about me I take issue with.

    Because I disagreed with you?

    How am I entitled? I don't expect anyone to do anything for me and I don't expect anything to come to me.

    Like I said, you don't know me.

    Whereas you've just been attacking people as "lazy" and "entitled".

    Ok now you're just having me on. End line, I don't think anything is above criticism or below praise whether it is a paid product or a free mod. People have the right to say what they think whether or not you think they are "qualified".

    Let's just leave it at that.
     
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  8. DirtyOldShoe

    DirtyOldShoe Some kind of lucky

    Dec 15, 2015
    It's okay if you do it though right?
    Name calling is name calling.

    You are lazy and entitled. I'm not qualified to make those accusations, but I have a right to say what I think. :)
     
  9. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Did he do that, though?
     
  10. ikazuchi87

    ikazuchi87 First time out of the vault

    64
    Jun 16, 2007
    Throw this filthy aged boot in there as well, it outlived its usefulness. :D
     
  11. DirtyOldShoe

    DirtyOldShoe Some kind of lucky

    Dec 15, 2015
    I quoted it, Calling some one condesending is no different then calling someone entitled. It's still name calling and putting a label on a person.
    You have a child sex trafficking symbol in your profile pic. That one stands for "boy lover"

    https://tuecaa.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/pedophile-symbols-and-codes-an-update/
     
  12. Are you Vatting this?

    if only to mention the slooty companion mods, namely for Skyrim. There is ALWAYS a 4-5/6 ratio on the hottest files of the front page of Skyrim Nexus.

    It can be the most useful mod ever, but the bigger portion are always that kind of mod. That's how in the "Mods of the Year" list I had not seen any of these across the year; either they slipped or "Bae the pedophilebait Elf" was all over the screen.
     
  13. ikazuchi87

    ikazuchi87 First time out of the vault

    64
    Jun 16, 2007
    Didn't know that but it does make sense and how is that relevant to this topic?
     
  14. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Soon, my child... I still have hopes that this can be turned back into a proper thread.

    Yeah, I dislike these as well. A lot of mods seem to be basically wank material that just feels out of place. As I said, some of these mods have some serious work in them, from textures to meshes and even voice acting, but it just feels so out of place in games like Skyrim. Like the DX Mini Armors Collection mods. Top notch textures and meshes, but apart from a few exceptions it just looks so out of place and useless, turning the Chainmail Bikini trope up to eleven. I mean, am I wrong for not wanting outright porn in my video game? Or Manic Pixie Dream Girls as companions? Maybe real life jaded me too much to enjoy these phantasies anymore...
     
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  15. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Another kind of mod I dislike is the kind that karate kicks my PC in the balls because whoever made it thought it would be a good idea to exceed the object limit per cell by shoving 100 NPCs and made them all bullet sponges because they assume I have God Weapon mods installed.
     
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  16. ikazuchi87

    ikazuchi87 First time out of the vault

    64
    Jun 16, 2007
    Mods that add new enemies for no reason at random locations.
     
  17. DirtyOldShoe

    DirtyOldShoe Some kind of lucky

    Dec 15, 2015
    Sounds like the entirety of Fallout 4.
     
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  18. Zwei Bären

    Zwei Bären High fivin'

    22
    Jan 8, 2017
    Unfortunatley, Fallout 4 is not a mod.
     
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  19. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    No, it's very good that it's not a mod, so you're allowed to criticise it. Even make fun of its head writer without even proving that you could do better!
     
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  20. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    So i skipped through this thread and on one hand i am really glad nobody mentioned my mods, on the other hand i kinda wish for some attention, no matter if good or bad. :>


    On topic, I stopped caring much about other mods. If i like something, i comment it and specify what exactly i like about it, what could be done better, etc. as i feel the modder deserves feedback. If i dont like a mod, i usually delete it and thats it... this of course also results in me thinking my shit is bad, because people rarely comment it. Oh well. :>

    Uh, there is one thing, though... anime hair in fo3/fnv mods. I hate it so much, if a quest mod - no matter how good - has anime hair in it, i am out.
     
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