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Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by encinodude, Nov 17, 2008.
Bioshock is basically System shock 2, add infinite respawn and Ayn rand.
Bioshock not overrated? A game that ripped off system shock 2, dumbed it down and got licked in the ass by every game reviewing magazine (like som other new game), and it's not overrated? It brings nothing new to the table, exept a dumbed down and graphically polished system shock 2.
I wish I could wipe my mind and play games like system shock 2 over and over again, instead of having to resort to newer games that rape good ones.
Another agreement... while I had fun playing Bioshock, it is overrated+dumbed down SS2 with little or no replayability.
Story is pretty damn good though.
Story of Bioshock is good for an FPS....
But the best thing about Bioshock is art direction and atmosphere, that is why I enjoyed that game a lot.Fun gameplay did not hurt either.But it is definitely not as complex as SS2..but Levine always said that Bioshock is a shooter, didn't he?
The guy is full of shit. Yes, those were big games but they are far from the most overhyped games out there. I can find something negative to say about any game and it doesn't make it overhyped. Some of those titles he listed, such as the Orange Box, deliver exactly what was promised. Others, like Assassin's Creed, have been praised for their positives but their problems have been aknowledged pretty widely.
I love Halo but I have to say that 2 and 3 were more overrated than any of the titles on his list. Where is Spore, Army of Two, Star Wars Unleashed, Oblivion?
I do agree with Gears of War and Super Smash Bros being on the list though.
It hurts my brain.
They essentially took a bunch of games that people like and strained themselves coming up with ways to use curse words without making an entire paragraph filled with fucks and bitches.
Completely ruins any point they had without adding any humor at all.
There were about ten "fucks", I think? That would be about one fuck per entry, maybe two in a few.
I find it normal to throw in a shit or a fuck every few sentences when talking to friends, so the language in that list didn't bother me. Overuse of foul language, though, can detract from an article. The criticism leveled against some of those games is actually very well founded, particularly in the GTA4 entry. But I can totally understand how some people who aren't used to that kind of language in a gaming article may be turned off. I'm thinking of starting up a gaming blog myself, but I probably won't be swearing heedlessly, to give it a more mainstream appeal. Besides, I think it's a challenge to try and analyze stuff creatively without sounding boring or falling back too much on swearing.
I think article is correct, I've played all of these games except (little big planet, Super Smash Bros. -thanks god I haven't played it!- and GOW) .
Assassin's Creed was literally waste of money. Awesome graphics, most repetitive game play ever. Totally boring.
MGS 4 was OK for first 6 hours, best graphics and engine ever, quite deep game play however weird eastern story and looong movies. It's definitely a good game but not a great one.
Orange Box is just too old, Team Fortess is the most ridiculous FPS ever (I see that they tried to do something different and they did. It's different yet bloody boring and stupid). + stupid maps. Rest of the games are quite out dated any way. Playing Half Life 2 in 2008 just doesn't make sense to me. (yes! it's different to play F1&2 because there is no alternative, there s*it loads of FPS out there and most of them are so much better than HL2)
And portal is just a shiny puzzle game, you can kill 5 hours than it's plain boring unless you are puzzle fan. I prefer "escape" as a puzzle game.
I played Bioschock briefly, it's a decent game it's in my rent list right now. However not a great game, it's decent game and it's fun. Also article agrees that Bioshock is a good game but not that great.
Devil may cry is a joke anyway. I don't even need to explain why it sucks.
GTA IV, I never liked this game. After playing 10-20 and hoping that it's gonna get better. Man, I was wrong. Never got better. It's so slow paced, pointless, stupid quests etc. Tutorial stage takes about a year you need do pointless quests like going to a date!?
I see why people like it but it's quite rubbish for my taste.
These are my personal opinions, but if you ask me there are a few games out there and worth spending time on them. And also it's about personal gaming style.
IMHO if a game gets 90+ out of 100 it should be something revolutionary good. I'm looking at metacritics and there are really average games and they are getting high scores. Gamespot is quite good with their scoring (still not great though).
BTW : This blog is great, just focusing only the bad sides of the games in a reckless manner and taking piss out of them is a neat idea. I'm reading COD:WaW and it's quite good review actually.
Just out of curiosity, what games do you like?
Re: MGS4 'best graphics and engine ever' - have you ever seen Crysis / Crysis: Warhead in person?
Biggest Dissapointment for me is Far Cry 2, before i knew what was facing me i was pretty sure that this award will be reserverd for Fallout 3. There are two types of quests in this game: Go there and kill something and go there and blow that thing up. Picking up 5 elefant turds and returning them to the questgiver would be a welcome variation.
Believe it or not, walking is a better and sometimes faster choice than driving. Everytime you drive your jeep along the road you`ll either crash into some enemy jeep mounted with a gun on his back or drive into a checkpoint heavily guarded by soldiers ready to start their jeep engines and hunt you down. Imagine the same situation every 5 minutes in a loop and you got your Far Cry 2. Need for Speed with cops is nothing against it.
The civilization has fled, all what is left is anger and bus stations. Everyone wants to kill you, even those guys who you work for. Like life isn`t hard enough in that game, you happen to have Malaria forcing you to do quest type number 1 to receive pills in exchange for passports. Even ranting about it, feelsl ike wasted time, damn too late. *clicks submit*
Although I'm not still playing all of these games, I really enjoyed while playing them.
There are a few games I love,
Obviously Fallout 1 & 2 and Tactics.
Then games that really really like :
Guild Wars, Quake Wars : ET, CoD4, Temple of Elemental Evil, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect, Jagged Alliance, Heroes M&M series, Commandos 1 etc.
So yeah there are games I actually like Also there are so many titles I enjoyed time to time such as Grid, Dirt, Swat 4, King's Bounty, Warhammer 40K, Dark Messiah, Icewind Dale, LOTRO and even Soul Calibut IV but not really into them too much.
Yeah I did, OK I did exaggerated MSG4's engine a little, still I think one of the bests. Especially cutscenes (which been done with the game engine) just awesome and so slick. I played Crysis in PC, game play was terrible although graphics were actually awesome.
I've just send Far Cry 2 back (was a rental). Great graphics and incredible animations with waste of time traveling and going around system. TBH there are a few FPS games out there which can keep the pace during the whole story. Also Far Cry 2's multiplayer was quite bit weird. Huge maps run a lot. die spaw run a lot, die spawn, drive a lot... OK you get the idea.
I think if you have so many hours to kill in a pointless Far Cry 2 is way to go...
Call of Duty 4 is totally scripted and lasts about five minutes. It hardly redefined multiplayer either, just providing a solid, generic FPS.
Bioshock was meant to be deep and groundbreaking but succeeded at neither of those. The shooter elements felt flawed, and the gameplay only offered so many options. Considering no multiplayer and the promises of endless customization, this was a disappointment.
Assassin's Creed I think is not worthy of that list. It wasn't given the fanboy and reviewer bukkake of various other titles, and succeeds in creating a relatively unique game world.
Generally anything tends to be 'good' if you're hooked on it. I'm sure we all know some people who are addicted to atrocious MMORPGs.
Agreed, I returned it after playing it for 3 days. The AI was horrible, once one enemy sees you everyone in the map is shooting at you. Stealth is impossible. Missions are a chore, travelling is boring and the storyline is utterly horrible.
This > that whole list. Spore is a horrible, immature atrocity on the gaming world. Instead of creating one good game, they manage to merge 5 utterly shit ripoffs of real games. The civilisation phase has a grand total of THREE FUCKING MILITARY UNITS, the space phase makes you the universe's bitch. And yet intellectuals like Time Magazine are hailing this as one of the "year's best inventions".
The only game I'm surprised to see up on the list is The Orange Box. Half-Life 2 is my favorite game of all time (It even beats Fallout 1/2) less because the gameplay is fantastic (It's solid enough) or the atmosphere is great (It's okay, but games like Condemned and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. are better at it), but because of how the story is told. The story itself is pretty okay, but the fact that it's entirely first person keeps you in the action at all times. There's not obvious narraration and it feels like the story is driving the game, not the other way around.
I also love TF2. I think it's a great game and does a really good job of being a game that really relies on teamwork. You can have great players on a team, but if they can't work as a team it turns into a fucking mess. I know, it's happened to me and it sucks.
Also, just to defend Super Smash Bros. Melee, I play competitively and there are a good deal of advanced techniques to learn (wavedashing probably being the most well known) and it gets pretty deep at high levels. Not the best fighter out there by any means, not as long as Guilty Gear is around, but definitely solid. Brawl kind of seems like a fuck you to the competitive crowd though with the addition of random tripping (retarded), ridiculously low amounts of hitstun (no combos), and retarded balance (what the fuck were they thinking with Metaknight).
Whatever, rant over.
Hm I just played CoD 5 and I think I don't finish it. Back in the year 2000 this game would be good, today I have to laugh about this shit. Just did the tankmission, how can somebody seriously design some shit like that? A Flamethrower/Maingun Tank with unlimited ammo and a regenerating hull which you drive to a tunnel full of stupid scripted enemies?
What a waste of time. Oh boy and what a hype. Can't try multiplayer due to my ping, but even if it would be superb (which I doubt because the guns will most likely be the same and they are super arcarde in sp) the game would still be hyped beyond any sense.
That's why I like it.
Brawl wasn't made for competition, it was made for crazy fun with friends.
Side Note: GTA IV's exclusive 360 expansion finally has a release date, February '09. To them I say, big whoop, start working on GTA V.
There is no more overrated game for this gen than Fallout 3. A complete and utter failure and both RPG and Fallout game.
Not far behind is Far Cry 2, which tried to rip-off GTA and mix it with FPP.
The advantage of WoW (and other good MMORPGs) is the size of the game world. You can't go through the game in a couple of hours and be done with it. Interaction with other players is good too. The disadvantage is the size of the game world. You can play forever and never really finish it. Still, I don't think it's overrated much.
As for Spore, Will Wright's original concept was great. EA finished it several years late, and stripped out a lot of content to get it done by then. The horrible DRM literally added insult to injury (paying customers don't appreciate being treated like criminals).
I would have put Crysis on that list. Other than a novel way of stressing your hardware to the limits and some of the best graphics on the market, the game itself is kinda "meh".
Sure, the "plausible future nano tech" stuff was neat, but the game, although pretty cool, was more hype imo. The suit mode thing seemed neat, but honestly after beating the game I had no real desire to play it again.
Oh, and the multiplayer was kinda.. eh