Ode To Joy

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Bofast, Feb 17, 2009.

  1. Bofast

    Bofast Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Jan 26, 2006
    Seeing this on Youtube made my day quite a bit happier, so I thought someone else might enjoy it as much as I did. It's Beaker, one of the muppets.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcUxwpOQ_A[/youtube]

    Awesome stuff, if you ask me :D
     
  2. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Oh freude schöner Götterfunken!

    Love Beethoven (though lyrics are Schiller)
     
  3. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    The anthem of United Europe.

    <3
     
  4. Zeal

    Zeal Still Mildly Glowing

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    Apr 20, 2003
    Haha very good. Another muppet classic is Mahna Mahna:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTXyXuqfBLA[/youtube]
     
  5. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    "the question is, what is a mana mana?"

    "The question is, who cares?"

    The old muppets are the best :mrgreen:
     
  6. Chancellor Kremlin

    Chancellor Kremlin Mildly Dipped

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    Nov 17, 2008
    Haha, brilliant!

    Europe unite!
     
  7. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Admin

    May 27, 2004
    the Muppets version of Mahna Mahna is my company's "hold" music.

    started as a joke, but we never removed it.
     
  8. Zeal

    Zeal Still Mildly Glowing

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    Apr 20, 2003
    you "dance" to the mana mana rhythm? :P
     
  9. Noneoftheabove

    Noneoftheabove First time out of the vault

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    May 2, 2007
    Habanera is great too!

    The Muppets are great, Beaker, Gonzo, Fozzy Bear... Ahh, television when tv was good tv!
     
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Bart Simpson: Dad, what's a Muppet?
    Homer Simpson: Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know.


    Which presidential candidate matches which Muppet?!

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmzKADYpGq0[/youtube]
     
  11. Dragula

    Dragula Stormtrooper oTO Orderite

    Nov 6, 2008
    Tochter aus elysium!
     
  12. UniversalWolf

    UniversalWolf eaten by a grue.

    Aug 28, 2005
    I think Mahna Mahna should be the anthem of the EU.
     
  13. Knödelkarpfen

    Knödelkarpfen First time out of the vault

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    Nov 15, 2008
    Not all of them are from Schiller.
     
  14. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I know Wikipedia is not the most accurate sources but since I doubt that everyone here can read German its somewhat useless to provide alternative ones (like Brockhaus Enzyklopädie), though in those that I know one can read that Schiller was responsible for the lyrics of the "ode to joy" which was the base of "freude schöner Götterfunken". If you have sources that say something different I would be glad to hear/read about it. Seriously. I am curious.
     
  15. Knödelkarpfen

    Knödelkarpfen First time out of the vault

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    Nov 15, 2008
    Sorry, I'll explain what i was referring to--as can be found to some degree in the same wiki article.

    LvB used sections 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8 of the original poem, ordering them 1, 3, 5, 8, 2, 6.
    Only the 5th and 6th lines of the first verse were changed--- "was der Mode Schwerd getheilt"(what custom's sword divided) changed to "was die Mode streng getheilt" (what custom strongly divided), and "Bettler werden Fürstenbrüder" (beggers become princes' brothers) changed to "alle Menschen werden Brüder" (all humans become brothers). The changes of these words downplay the the ideas of revolution and deliverance from tyranny which are present in Schiller's original. The rest of the poem makes this intent much clearer, as well as the fact that it is indeed in the form of a drinking song; Beethoven reduces it down to the essence of unification of people and his own deistic spirituality.

    What's more important is that the words of Schiller are immediately preceeded by the composer's simple words which are intoned by the solo baritone "Oh Freunde, nicht diese Töne! Sondern lasst uns angenehmere anstimmen. Und Freudenvollere!" (Oh friends, not these tones! Rather let us sound more pleasing ones! And joyfuller ones!) I tend to think these are the key words of the entire piece. It is debatable though whether they are rejecting the entire 35 or so minutes of music which has preceeded, or just the stormy introduction of the 4th movement.
     
  16. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    its still in its basics from Schiller. Regardless how manyl words one (we) are throwing around :P
     
  17. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    nice!