Pete Hines: BGS won't announce next game at E3

Yeah, I think people expected this based on the fake teaser site, even though it was revealed to be bogus. Bethesda probably wouldn't make an announcement at E3. They wouldn't want to get lost in the shuffle.

 

Well they are most likely doing PC/new gen, which should hopefully finally force them to do it on new engine, so no wonder it will take longer.
What sucks is that they did not give Fallout license to Obsidian again to make (superior) game for them in the meantime.

 

Yeah, they probably want to show some significant advancement on the new consoles. And with Bioware and CDPR both releasing big RPGs relatively soon, it's probably a good idea.

 

That was not a new engine. It was just improved Gamebryo with some shadowing and new animation system thrown in. And that engine is extremely defficient for new generation.

 

@Korin:
Paul is completely right, the Creation Engine is just rebranded good old Gamebryo. Look here for more detailed analysis:
http://peter.corrosivetruths.org/2011/12/21/is-skyrims-creation-just-gamebryo/

 

Yes, there are some changes in the Creation Engine, yet it's just modified Gamebryo, not a brand new one. There's old interview with Todd Howard talking about the Creation/Gamebryo evolution:

http://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/3076322

edit:
Even most of the console commands remained the same as in Oblivion, they're still working in Skyrim.

 

That's right - there's a lot of new features added to the Creation Engine, yet the core code is more than one decade old. That's why I'm complaining about the similarity between Morrowind/Oblivion/Fallout3/NV/Skyrim; it's still the same game for me in terms of mechanics.

Also, I'm not going to call the Unity engine used in Wasteland 2 with some different name, even if they've changed a lot of code in it. It's still the Unity engine for me.

 

Alright, I do agree with some of your points. Just one more thing before I'll end this unexpected spamfest of mine:

This doesn't mean that every line of the source code is updated on a regular basis, it looks more like some fresh new and up-to-date features are attached to an old trustworthy beast every now and then.

 

I just hate Pete for being such a naysayer.

 

Better him than Todd Howard...

 

The gamebyro engine for it self might not be bad, but I feel the way how Bethesda is using it makes it somewhat ... outdated. I have played Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim and thinking about it, over the years only very little has really changed between those games.

Sure, the visuals got better, some of the textures and they got finally the "faces" to look decent in Skyrim, not perfect, but better then what they had in Oblivion and Fallout 3. But a lot of things still havn't been touched. Like how the game still cant render more then 5 people on your screan simultaniously before the engine decides that its time to die, civil wars, big deamon invasions, incredible battlefields ... all with 10 people/fighters on each side ... I suppose the word epic battle means for Bethesda something entirely different for them then it does for me. As far as the gameplay goes they also made no improvements. A new engine should give you the oportunity to work on new gameplay as well, something that you could not do before because you had not enough hardware to do it. But the AI in Skyrim is basically still not more then what you had in Morrowind. And lets not even start about things that make RPGs interesting, what about social interactions? NPC behaviour and AI. This also has not improved.

To say it this way, Bethesda is not a company that is doing anything innovative, new or experimenting. Come to think of it, that is maybe not even really a problem, if the games they made would not be so bugged and stale, Skyrim is really the same kind of experience you had already with Fallout 3 and Oblivion, and I mean the same experience, runing around in a huge MMO like environment doing meaningless quests. The word hiking simulator somehow comes in to my mind.

and have still a lot of trouble to get it right ... even after a decade of working with the gamebryo engine Skyrim had so many bugs its not funny anymore.

 

They're using the FaceGen middleware for face modeling in Oblivion, F3/NV and Skyrim; so not all the credit for good looking faces belongs to Beth's programmers.

 

Crni Vuk >
Are you masochistic ?
One crap is enough. If Beth get to make the next Fallout, i will read every review and member comments before even consider buying it.
Fallout 3 experience was painfull, not just a let down.