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Discussion in 'Fallout: New Vegas Discussion' started by Dr Fallout, Jan 12, 2016.
We're still confused...
@Gnarles Bronson Who censored you? Was it the Firemen? The thought-police? The SJW's? Who?
Thinking back now, I (and this seems to be the opinion of most people here) would have enjoyed Dead Money more if it somehow included Veronica more. That DLC more than the others seems made with her in mind. I play Old World Blues for the humour and the exploration. For some reason, I think of Rocky Horror Picture show when I play it.
Yeah there's certainly a level of camp going on in Old World Blues. It has its detractors but honestly if you just think of Big MT as being a sealed off lab where SCIENCE! unleashed a bunch of nightmarish shit on the world, it happily fits in with Fallout.
I think everyone would have liked a more human element within Dead Money considering the Veronica connection with Elijah and Christine, but I'm just not sure how well it would have been done with the engine. It's an engine that can't even animate a handshake between two NPCs, let alone a hug or anything that would happen between Veronica and Christine
True. If you think about it, except for Lonesome Road and Honest Hearts, characters from Veronica's past play quite an important role in events. Of course you would only notice this if you had her in your party and actually spoke with her.
For me it was amazing, because she was one of the few companions I found on my first playthrough. Because of that I hung around the BoS alot and learned all about their history in the Mojave. All the time you kept hearing about "Father Elijah" and the strange personality that he was.
And then with Dead Money you finally meet him! And he lives up to his reputation! He actually is a crazy old man who messes around with pre-war tech.
Such a perfect antagonist. So many games fall short for me these days because they just can't live up to the characters in Fallout: New Vegas.
Definitely. He had this whole unfeeling pragmatist thing that just fit perfectly with the DLC as a whole. Veronica and Cass were the first NPCs I found, but Cass I only got to join after reading that you had to complete a whole side-quest to get her. For that kind of cheap reason, I love Veronica. It also helps that most times, when I play the Fallout games these days, I play as a woman.
I probably decided Veronica was my best friend ever because I had just been blown half to death on my way past Novac by the raiders and suddenly, Oh My God, someone who can help me not die!
I'll always love Raul and Arcade and Cass, but they'll always be that special place in my heart for the woman who helped me punch raiders to death.
On a side note to return to DLCs quickly. I wish there was a way to hug Christine. She looks like she needs a hug. That's why everyone wants more Veronica interaction in Dead Money. We all just want that closure.
Voted for OWB, hilarious insanity!
(OWB > DM > LR > HH for me)
Exactly, the main reason why I wouldn't replay this game ever. Bloody console ports!
Yup. I was very disappointed when the cumulative perks as Camel of the Mojave started kicking in, because it rendered my carefully stashed goodies completely useless. Shitloads of my own masterfully cooked delicatessen wasted, because Courier became pretty much resistant to hunger and thirst. Hardcore mode is not HC enough.
I was thinking something similar. Or I just wish she didn't stay behind in the end and that she could go with you.
There have been mods to bring Christine back with you but yeah you can't have her interact with Veronica. I'd love it if we could get Felicia Day and Laura Bailey to voice act a meeting.
It's a shame with the DLCs. I guess "mods'll fix it" but there's no real reason for Christine, Dead Domino, Follows-Chalk and Ulysses to basically disappear from the game once the DLC's are over.
Sigh...there's always fanfiction at least.
Dead Money discussion?
Well, might as well add my two cents. When I first played this DLC, I disliked it a lot, mostly because of the gameplay. But then after giving it a couple more tries (and getting rid of those damn speakers) I actually liked it.
The story is really well done, being dark, grim and just heavy on heart compared to Old World Blues. The characters, damn I love Christine, I also wish there was more to her and Veronica (I blame Bethesda for that and all other crap). Everyone else wasn't bad either and each of them had their own reasons for coming to Madre in the first place.
It may seem hard, but for a melee focused character it is a piece of cake and with high survival it is hard to die out of starvation or thirst. Also when you get the codes for items like bullets it becomes very easy.
Overall, I think the DLC could be much better if it weren't for the shitty engine, lack of time and resources. Now it is my second most favourite DLC, just behind Old World Blues.
Old World Blues, well Mr Caption described the DLC well enough for me:
I blame Bethesda for everything. I stubbed my toe the other day... phoned in a complaint.
Good man! I lost my uncle to a tsunami in Japan.
Mine's either Dead Money or Honest Hearts. Which is a bit weird because they were actually my least favorite on my first play-though, where I played it more like skyrim than an RPG.
Dead Money really grew on me and I'd put that as my favourite - the other DLC's also don't have any moment as satisfying as trapping Elijah in the vault while also escaping with all the gold bars.
Ah Dead Money... wait why did you not join with Elijah?
Everything that needs to be said about Dead Money has already been said, so I'll throw in a vote for Lonesome Road, my second favourite DLC.
Lonesome Road was a fantastic finale to the DLC story arc, it had a very cool focused feel to it and the Divide was a very fun location to explore with an interesting backstory/context to why it's a blasted hell hole. I've said this numerous times before but I think Ulysses is a great character and I loved the "End of the world" big bad plot that Lonesome Road had, as not only was it a direct reference to Van Buren but it was also a callback to the old style of Fallout plots. It was a great final "hurrah" to New Vegas and old Fallout as a whole.
I have a hard time finding the best one but not so hard to find the one i liked the least. HH is my choice for the "worst" one as i loved the other dlc's. The only thing i really liked was finding the stashes everything els was meh.
It had some lore that could have been great but Joshua is not represented as big as he is led to belive and i pretty much forgot about all the other npcs by now.
Also in the camp of HH being the weakest. The setting is great, and it is nice to see something done not immediately tied into the old world though there are some remnants around.
And yeah, I wish more was done with Joshua and that we got to see New Canaan.
In general most of the quests were not that dissimilar from OBW (which I also dislike to a degree) but here because of a... well a lack of something they felt even more like a drag.
I guess Lonesome Road is probably also very weak and I do with there had been some more quests and NPCs, and that Ulysses was better developed, but I still really love the setting. This broken landscape full of the remnants of the old world.