PSM praises writing of Fallout: New Vegas

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    PSM's preview of Fallout: New Vegas isn't in the stands yet, but magazine network site CVG previews the preview.<blockquote>Lead producer of Fallout New Vegas, Larry Liberty said: "We had to modify the dialogue engine from Fallout 3 to include the types of dialogue and options that we wanted.

    "We want real, memorable characters. I think it helps you to remember parts of the world you'd otherwise forget."

    As part of its world-exclusive cover feature, PSM3 played an extensive demo of New Vegas. The mag reported that it was 'apparent that Obsidian are much more comfortable behind the keyboard than the team that made Fallout 3 and, before that, Oblivion. The scripting is wittier, the characters more distinct.'</blockquote>Thanks King of Creation.
  2. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    The Rybicki Maneuver? Already?

    I can't say I'm shocked. If journos are going to pick any point to hype on New Vegas it has to be writing, because even they can't keep up the facade that writing in Fallout 3 was even halfway competent.

    Good stuff, regardless.
  3. Silencer

    Silencer Night Watchman Staff Member Admin

    Nov 7, 2003
    Wait, didn't Fallout 3 receive awards for exquisite writing?

    They say this game is even better? Holy crap! Lions!
  4. HoboWithAGlock

    HoboWithAGlock First time out of the vault

    Aug 14, 2009
    How could any writer game surpass the exquisite dialogue that graced we in Fallout 3?

    Its unthinkable.
  5. Paul_cz

    Paul_cz Mildly Dipped

    Jun 11, 2008
    Well, cynicism aside, this is fucking awesome news and one of the best yet.

    I was really afraid they would have to work with that stupid engine limitation.

    Uffffff. :clap:
  6. Patton89

    Patton89 Vault Dweller

    Nov 21, 2008
    My 5 year old cousin is more wittier than fallout 3.
    It really doesnt take much effort.
  7. Grimhound

    Grimhound Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 22, 2008


    Excuse me... I have to go carve a portion of my brain out to forget that character again.
  8. Starwars

    Starwars Mildly Dipped

    Sep 17, 2006
    So what does it mean? Was there some sort of limit to dialogue writing inside the engine? If I remember correctly, there was a rather strict limit in Oblivion for how many words or whatever could be present in a dialogue line. Was that present in Fallout 3 also?

    Anyways, sounds good.
  9. Grimhound

    Grimhound Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 22, 2008
    This parody video had better dialogue and writing than the actual game.

    As for limits, I'm not sure how that couldn't be worked around. ..or why that would exist.
  10. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    No, the character-hard-limit of Oblivion was already taken out in vanilla Fallout 3.

    I'm not sure what they changed. Maybe some limitations on how many variables can impact dialogue, to include reputation and more repercussions for choices, maybe more complex dialogue trees. Who knows?
  11. OzzymO

    OzzymO First time out of the vault

    Sep 19, 2009
    I have to say that i honestly thought Moira was one of the better characters in fallout 3.I saw her as being just as stupid as she was intended to be and her quests were pretty fun to do.Im a fan of 3 though, so i guess im a minority here.
  12. Paul_cz

    Paul_cz Mildly Dipped

    Jun 11, 2008
    Really? I think I read somewhere it was still in there..but I guess I misremember. Btw I just found out from reading rybicki maneuver article that you are Brother None/Kharn. Goshdarnit I was wondering where you were and who was this new guy : ).

    I am there with you, she was intended to be fucking annoying and I went with it.
  13. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Moderator Modder

    Apr 24, 2005
    If New Vegas get's a new / modified dialogue engine, it's pretty good news. The 'old one' is really bad. And with really bad I mean bad*10.
  14. Ausir

    Ausir Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Apr 20, 2003
    The biggest limitation in FO3 was the editor, where there is no editable tree view, everything is edited in a flat list, organized by quest, not by conversation (e.g. if you look up "Tenpenny Tower" you see dialogue related to that quest). So it's very difficult to write deep dialogue trees using that.

    What's with the goddamn name changing on NMA anyways? Soon Kharn will have as many nicknames as Rex Exitium.
  15. plek

    plek Silent Ninja

    Jul 31, 2007
    This is pleasant news. Very expected, but also the area that should be focused on in this game. Question is if commercial gaming press will be putting any emphasis on distinguishing between Bethesda's so called good writing and Obsidian's potentially good writing. Bethesda focusing Fallout 3 on more action and less dialogue was not unexpected since that is what people want. Will we see in-depth/critical journalism aimed at areas that the general public is not that interested in? I doubt so.
  16. Sicblades

    Sicblades Antediluvian as Feck

    Aug 28, 2008
    I wonder how many journos will go back and change their obscenely high reviews of FO3's dialogue after this.
  17. PainlessDocM

    PainlessDocM Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 5, 2010
    Lies, Fallout 3 reached the pinnacle of game writing .

    [youtube] [/youtube]
  18. Black

    Black Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 21, 2007
    NV's writing will probably be better than FO3's but:
    1) That's not exactly an achievement
    2) Vast majority of journalists wouldn't know good writing even if it raped them
    3) I can already see "Obsidian's writing is nowhere as good as Bethesda's". Just you wait.
  19. generalissimofurioso

    generalissimofurioso The Hole Time Orderite

    Jun 17, 2007
    Change their reviews?

    That would mean having to alter something i.e. work!
  20. orionquest

    orionquest First time out of the vault

    Jun 26, 2004
    Now that's more like it. witty use of editing. :lol:

    Hire that guy. :clap:

    Oops, I forgot that he only does parody, not propaganda. :roll: