Question about the Megaton Bomb?

Discussion in 'Fallout 3 Discussion' started by cogar66, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. cogar66

    cogar66 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Feb 16, 2010
    Why hasn't the BoS tried to recover this pre-war technology yet?

    I'm sure this has been brought up before, if it's that irrelevant VATS now.
     
  2. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    You should ask Bethesda that question.
     
  3. camil2003

    camil2003 First time out of the vault

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    Dec 28, 2009
    what the second guy said.

    Would have been better for the main quest to revolve around that instead of purifying water.
     
  4. Aphyosis

    Aphyosis Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Nov 4, 2009
    I'd be curious as to what the worth of it would be. We're talking a 200 year old bomb here, i'd imagine the plutonium decayed and much of the systems failed considering its sitting in a puddle of water.
     
  5. Tremer

    Tremer It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Apr 5, 2010
    because like every people in the game they are idiots, and they lack of common sense
     
  6. Argonnot

    Argonnot Still Mildly Glowing

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    Aug 27, 2004
    Or the fact that in all likelyhood 200 years of soaking in water has rendered the weapon useless for anything but slowling killing off the inhabitants of the shithole that is megaton. Though considering that you can detonate it, bethesda didn't think of that when creating the quest. Maybe if the BoS tried to take it the crazy bomb cultests would attack them. Fuck if I know.
     
  7. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    well I have the idea that some people who designed the BoS, tows and story in Crapout 3 simply thought its "way more cooler and inovashun to blow up some inocent town!".

    I remember this interview with Tod and where he said something like "Its Fallout ! Letz blow something up" ...
     
  8. Arden

    Arden Still Mildly Glowing

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    Feb 26, 2010
    Shitty gemedesign. A good designed game creates a world and puts the player in it. Bethesda creates a player and then designs the world around him. The bomb wasn’t detonated, stolen, bought or dismantled because how else would the Vault dweller earn his cool tenpenny appartment? The bomb exists only so that the Vaultbrat can make his "morally ambigious choice", nothing else. Everything is there to serve the player.

    Another good example of this is the stupidity surrounding GNR. GNR needs a satellite dish to broadcast its news and keep up the good fight, right? The BOS supports GNR and they protect his studios. They beat off attacks from muties and loose men doing this. Its apparently important to them. But the damn Radio doesn’t work. They know where there is a dish, a bunch of Brothers of Stupidity are hanging out in front of its location. Do they start an attack on the museum? Do they send the dozen buggers that hang around GNR to retrieve the dish? Course not, that’s the job of the VB. Everyone and everything is waiting until the VB is good and ready. The world starts and ends with the player, so asking for an explanation for anything outside the context of the player is futile. FO3 is a solipsists wet dream come true.
     
  9. SharkClub

    SharkClub Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 6, 2008
    Why hasn't anyone scavenged the supermarkets instead of leaving it all for the player to take when he exits the vault?

    It's just shit game-design, as said above. Bethesda are great at making things that don't make sense.
     
  10. cogar66

    cogar66 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Feb 16, 2010
    Good point.
     
  11. Santoka

    Santoka It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Mar 8, 2010
    And that's exactly why the game was so god damned successful : it never challenges but gratifies the player in every possible way - the world is waiting for you, you get perks every level, you can max out your character, there is diablo-esque loot (coulda been worst though) that you don't even need and you can "do anything". :cry:
     
  12. UnidentifiedFlyingTard

    UnidentifiedFlyingTard Vault Fossil

    Mar 12, 2009
    because that wouldn't be nearly as cool.
     
  13. biggestantman

    biggestantman First time out of the vault

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    May 13, 2010
    the plutonium after 200 year wouldn't have decayed unless it was Plutonium-238then it would have decayed by half about 3 times, but if it was Plutonium-244 then it would even have decayed much if at all. but the water being around the bomb could short curciut some of the bombs systems but there would have been enough plutonium either way for that explosion at tennpenny tower. and enough for the BoS to want it.
     
  14. Professor Danger!

    Professor Danger! Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Aug 30, 2009
    They were too busy not acting like real BoS in DC.
     
  15. Lynette

    Lynette It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jan 9, 2010
    Or the supermutants, or the enclave, or the raiders, or etc etc.....
     
  16. Oerjeke

    Oerjeke Still Mildly Glowing

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    Mar 24, 2009
    Because it wouldn't be as noble goal as purifying the water with no real consequenses. Better just use the bomb to kill a town full of people. That's much more civilized.
     
  17. Michael of the Wastes

    Michael of the Wastes First time out of the vault

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    May 12, 2010
    Hell, why is anything there in Fallout? By your guy's logic, nothing would be there. The wasteland would be empty.

    Why are there ammo boxes? Wouldn't other wastelanders grab them!

    The Brotherhood of Steel aren't taking the bomb from Megaton because the extraction effort wouldn't be worth it, The Church of Atom would be pissed off, Assuming it wasn't disabled- it'd be very dangerous. The Brotherhood is occupied with a ton of things within the wasteland, retrieving the bomb may not just be very high on their priority list.
     
  18. Aphyosis

    Aphyosis Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Nov 4, 2009
    They don't use 238 or 244 in Nuclear weapons. 239 and 241 are used. With that said, while 241 would have decayed, 239 wouldn't have. Irrespective of that though, i seriously doubt the bomb would be in any condition to achieve a nuclear detonation after such a period exposed in the elements. The systems need to be functional to achieve critical mass, otherwise it would just be a dirty bomb (I'd comment on the explosion size and say its likely, but we all know how safe nuclear detonation is in FO3)

    If the BOS really wanted it, i doubt it would be for the bomb. They lack the means to deliver it and i'm doubtful anyone would want that shell after such a period of time. The real value would be in the synthesized plutonium, something which its undoubtedly hard/impossible to find. Assuming it hasn't decayed anyway.
     
  19. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    well considering how many groups are present in F3 its amazing how no one of them cares about the bomb. Except for the idiot Tenn Penny.
     
  20. Lauch

    Lauch First time out of the vault

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    May 12, 2010
    you'd think at least the outcasts would care