Scientists Invent 30 Year Continuous Power Laptop Battery

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by SuAside, Oct 2, 2007.

  1. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    appearantly the men in white coats have invented a betavoltaic cell battery which should be able to power a laptop for 30 years & be no bigger than a modern battery. they're saying it'll be commercialised in about 2 to 3 years.

    it is supposedly harmless, but pardon me for being skeptical. after all it uses decay from neutron to proton and the thereby generated beta emissions to power the thing.

    still, if true, it'd be kind of neat. lets just hope it doesnt cost an arm & a leg...

    source: http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html
     
  2. Sorrow

    Sorrow So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Feb 9, 2006
    Small Energy Cell?
     
  3. victor

    victor Antediluvian as Feck
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    Dec 12, 2003
    Nuclear?
     
  4. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    no, it isn't.
     
  5. victor

    victor Antediluvian as Feck
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    Dec 12, 2003
    But it generated beta emissions?
     
  6. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    yes.

    just read the article, it's tiny.

    they say it's not radioactive nor nuclear, though it sounds like it.

    "Although betavoltaic batteries sound Nuclear they’re not, they’re neither use fission/fusion or chemical processes to produce energy and so (do not produce any radioactive or hazardous waste). Betavoltaics generate power when an electron strikes a particular interface between two layers of material. The Process uses beta electron emissions that occur when a neutron decays into a proton which causes a forward bias in the semiconductor. This makes the betavoltaic cell a forward bias diode of sorts, similar in some respects to a photovoltaic (solar) cell. Electrons scatter out of their normal orbits in the semiconductor and into the circuit creating a usable electric current."

    and

    "The best part about these cells are when they eventually run out of power they are totally inert and non-toxic, so environmentalists need not fear these high tech scientific wonder batteries."

    though that last implies that they're not inert and non-toxic BEFORE their charge runs out. ;)
     
  7. babadook

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    Apr 2, 2005
    exactly! who the hell owns a computer for 30 years?! They better make a standard for this so that batteries can be transfered/used between units or we'll end up with a lot of radioactive shit

    I hope they case it well

    add: wow this battery has been around for quite some time,

    http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/BetaVoltaics/index.html

    seems like AliBali Gumba might be proven wrong
     
  8. Maphusio

    Maphusio Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Sep 25, 2004
    ...holly hanna... So now I can McGuyver a robot that will lie dormant for years and years and years that will be mistakenly activated while "the chosen one" explores my secret under ground bunker... Or, buy lappys without batteries on purpose for 30 years...

    I wonder what the potential for reverse engineering the battery for other products... Say, I don't know a back up power supply for the desktop pc?
     
  9. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    laser pistols! ;)
     
  10. TheWesDude

    TheWesDude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 25, 2005
    it looks like what it does is it has a betavoltic system that generates electricity, but they hook that up to a battery to hold the charge as the nominal output of the betavoltic system is too low to actually power the devices themselves.
     
  11. jello

    jello First time out of the vault

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    Sep 11, 2007
    amazing. can't wait for photonic processors tho
     
  12. Kyuu

    Kyuu Insert Awesome Title Here

    Jul 19, 2007
    That is truly amazing, and this kind of power source has utility far beyond just powering laptops. Although never having to recharge my laptop, cell phone, DS, or wireless accessory does sound very nice.

    I'm quite certain that whatever radiation is given off is low enough to be a non-issue, if any radiation is given off in the first place, which I'm not clear on. Although people's reactions will be predictable, since everyone's panic meter goes off the charts when the word "radioactive" is mentioned. Nevermind that everyone on the planet is subject to fair amounts of background radiation every second of every day.

    Also, I'm sure it'd be a non-issue to make the technology into a universal form, similar to rechargeable AA batteries or power packs, assuming it can be made as compact as they claim.
     
  13. zioburosky13

    zioburosky13 Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 24, 2004
     
  14. babadook

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    Apr 2, 2005
    who the hell is over 30 years old?!
     
  15. victor

    victor Antediluvian as Feck
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    Dec 12, 2003
    And still uses a computer? Damn geeks.
     
  16. maximaz

    maximaz Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Apr 2, 2006
    That's kinda hard to believe seeing as laptop batteries only last a couple of hours. The technology behind it is completely different but still it's a pretty amazing and dramatic leap to go from about 3 hours straight to 30 years. That is such bad news for battery manufacturers. They will sell those batteries every 30 years ))
     
  17. babadook

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    It's like the introduction of the downloadable content to the record industry. Sadly for them it is bound to happen some day, and they're bound to loose

    let's just hope they realise this
     
  18. cdoublejj

    cdoublejj It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Apr 30, 2007
    About fucking time now we can have a reliable laptop battery. Hell mine doesn't even hold a charge after several years let alone 30.
     
  19. xdarkyrex

    xdarkyrex Vault Senior Citizen

    Aug 28, 2006
    Did anyone else just notice the term tritium used?


    Uhhh, thats weapons grade nuclear material O_o

    Granted, its used as a nuclear accelerator due to low critical mass and insubstantial yield, but thats still radioactive hydrogen being output by these batteries.
     
  20. Kyuu

    Kyuu Insert Awesome Title Here

    Jul 19, 2007
    Doesn't sound too dangerous to me. Of course, I'm sure the manufacturers are going to have to put large warning labels on the things. "Warning: Don't eat the fucking batteries! Attempting to crush it into a fine powder and snort it up your nose is also a bad idea, moron!"