Share your head-cannons for Fallout

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Ugly Kid, May 28, 2020.

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  1. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Fossil

    Mar 16, 2013
    IIRC ballistic weapons continued developing until the 2070s. Stuff like the AK-112 and the 12.7mm Pistol/SMG. I also like it like that. Modern weapons like an AR-15 or M4 are antiques and the primary ballistic weapons before the war were futuristic pulp sci-fi looking designs like the 10mm Pistol.
     
  2. From my understanding, Fallout is an alternative universe based off of the 1950's vision of how the future would be and then that going to hell. So that's a varied assumption going to 2077. You have to be careful and think as someone in the 50's would when designing weapons. Ray-guns were all the rave.
     
  3. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Fossil

    Mar 16, 2013
    There's a meme image out there that explains this really well, about how designs like the 10mm, 12.7mm, Grenade Machine-Gun etc are all really good fits for the Fallout setting but shit like the P90 or Mossberg are not.
     






















  4. This screams Fallout to me.
     
  5. Malpais Dominus

    Malpais Dominus First time out of the vault

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    Jun 1, 2020
    Funnily enough I frequently use an STG from a mod when I play New Vegas.
     
  6. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Oh boy, so much written here that I would like to respond on but addressing each and everyone individually also seems such a drawn out and useless action.
    Also seem to be coming a little bit short on my own part of really being able to go into the technical details.

    I also think that Fallout should never have strictly adhered to any "no transistor/microprocessor" technologies, there only being magnetic tapes, vacuum tubes, and so on.
    It was more about the aesthetics of what the people from the 50s thought that the future would look like (Atompunk) with some dieselpunk style thrown in here and there and not necessarily similar technological workings.

    This is one of those cases in which fans but also developers really clamped down so hard on certain ideas that they perceived these to be the absolute truth with as result that it was treated as such in any subsequent games.

    I also prefer more realistic ballistic guns from after the 50s over the gun types that Bethesda introduced since Fallout 3 and I am glad a lot if not almost all of them were dropped in Fallout New Vegas.
     
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  7. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos First time out of the vault

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    May 12, 2020
    Any chance you could share that image?
     
  8. I forgot that there is that ATOM RPG: Post-apocalyptic indie game for people who want a more "Realistic" fallout experience.
     
  9. Eshanas

    Eshanas Vault Dweller

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    Jul 6, 2016
    Yea the 'WE ONLY HAD VACUUM TUBES' thing falls really short. Vacuum tubes fucking suck. Then by NV or 3 even its 'transistors were invented far later' which still sucks, early transistors would be garbage now. I always saw it as a cultural thing; which does not necessarily tie with tech.

    America fell into this weird Post-Civil Rights reactionary rut. Everyone is now an equal American, unless you're a fucking Red/Pinko. Chinese, Black, Japanese, Hispanic, White, doesn't matter. You pledge to the fucking Stars and Stripes and get a move on.

    But I digress. What, honestly, does a lack of microprocessors do to this world? We're not in it, we just play with the toys left behind, and honestly you're telling me these people made laser gatling guns and powered armor with only the tubes or early transistors ? It just feels like a needless lore gimmick like Psionics.
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  10. cratchety ol joe

    cratchety ol joe Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Sep 2, 2008
    Further headcannon, and in-keeping with the current thread of discussion... I always saw the 50's aesthetic being almost purely an American thing. A sociological / psychological ploy by the US govt' to placate their ever more upset populous, a veneer to hide over the boiling pot of social and economic discontent.

    I always considered that the world would be much more akin to perhaps Bladerunner or the world/tech seen in Running Man or even Total Recall. in my personal headspace, the pre-war world is hella advanced.

    I always thought that the US adopted and abused the post-war (WWII) style because that period has historically been seen to be one of the best periods of growth and American economic boom (closely linked with new technologies coming into consumer life). It makes sens they would abuse that 'style' to try and fool the population into believing that America is doing great and there's nothing to be afraid of... The white picket fence lifestyle, the family unit EVERYTHING IS FINE...

    Very draconian and insidious, and very fitting to the world of Fallout.

    But, with that in mind, there's nothing stopping other places in the world having a VERY different sociological environment, China could be a veritable utopian glass-towered sci-fi landscape (think of the style many 70's sci-fi would present a Utopian future... in line with Buck Rogers, Logans Run.)

    I personally enjoy the concept that Europe is mostly consumed in a sort of post-industrial Dieselpunk, very 80's neo-gothic form of society, having suffered through the resource wars just before the end of the world, I figure the soiety there would be in a reformation phase, adopting new tech and quickly replacing old tech.

    I could bang on about this all day but - TL/DR:

    I think the pre-war world was VERY advanced (by what we currently consider 'modern')
     
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  11. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Fossil

    Mar 16, 2013
    I don't really like that idea. It just makes the rest of the setting more boring and also by proxy makes America seem like a deliberate bethesda themepark.
     
  12. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Half-way Through My Half-life

    Nov 26, 2007
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  13. Ugly Kid

    Ugly Kid It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    May 9, 2018
    I personally think that's a great idea. It makes different nations appear more distinct and interesting from one another. Some may not like it for whatever reason, but in world building, every nation should feel distinct unless the intent is to have them be similar. Examples of this world-building principle is by looking at every faction, the only two that are undoubtedly similar is the BoS and the Enclave. The Enclave was meant to like the BoS but cranked up to 11 out of 5. Every other group in the wasteland (save for tribals and raiders) feel extremely distinct from one another.

    Plus it just makes everywhere feel more memorable.
     
  14. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Fossil

    Mar 16, 2013

    But you could have distinctly different countries following the same retro-future philosophy. A Soviet Union that takes the propaganda posters and brutalist design philosophy/aesthetics to an exaggerated reality, for instance. If we found out that actually America was just playing pretend and being stupid and the rest of the world looks like Deus Ex it would be so massively disappointing and dumb to me.
     
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  15. Malpais Dominus

    Malpais Dominus First time out of the vault

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    Jun 1, 2020
    I'd imagine every country is a cranked up stereotype of their post WWII situation.
     
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  16. Ugly Kid

    Ugly Kid It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    May 9, 2018
    When I think about this, I just imagine that every continent is different, each country within would differ slightly but still be very similar. I'm sure I'm just not thinking hard enough but It would also be like modern life but exaggerated. China seems very Utopian to compensate for being China, Europe is a pretty miserable place to be, North American countries try to boost morale by pretending we're fine. I don't know, I just think it'd be kinda interesting and I'm probably missing something.
     
  17. Malpais Dominus

    Malpais Dominus First time out of the vault

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    Jun 1, 2020
    Do we know much about decolonialism in the Fallout universe? It's pretty clear that the nations of Europe still fell behind the United States when it came to superpowers but the cynicism of the pre-war era in the Fallout world makes me wonder how hard countries tried to hang onto their colonial holdings in this timeline. France and Portugal weren't too keen on it irl as I recall. I could see a stereotypical Gaullist France trying to keep itself relevant on the world stage and falling into an increasingly reactionary dictatorship.
    There was a pretty universally detested idea that went nowhere of France and Britain forming a union to preserve their empires and create a third "faction" in the Cold War irl. Maybes that's where the more centralized "European Commonwealth" came from in Fallout.
     
  18. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Fossil

    Mar 16, 2013
    My assumption has always been that there had to be some massive global consolidation of powers, in effect justification for why continents like Africa or Central and South America wouldn't remain relatively untouched and would be blasted hellscapes like the rest of the planet. So either the Hyper Cold War powers land grabbing, extensive proxy conflicts and puppeteering meaning basically every non-western country has "picked a side" therefore has painted a target, or these regions and countries have formed nuclear-armed powers of their own.

    As for Europe, I don't think classically imperial powers would be within character for Fallout. I can see the "European Commonwealth" basically being a hyper-centralized, hawkish version of NATO/The EU and in that way could be as tied up in interventionism as the USA is. This would obviously, as we're told, fall apart into "bickering nation-states" right before the end.

    Central America I can see as being split between "America's Backyard" with places like Cuba as basically bananna republics propped up for the amusment of moneyed American interests, and USSR/Chinese supported communist enclaves.
     
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  19. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Half-way Through My Half-life

    Nov 26, 2007
    It's been done.

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  20. Eshanas

    Eshanas Vault Dweller

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    Jul 6, 2016
    Yea I think the Fallout Verse basically has these huge blocs.

    Canada, Australia, NZ had to look at the US instead of the UK which went with the European Commonwealth. The Middle East united (I take this to be a Pan-Arab thing, not some 'united ME which is just...no, and Turkey in the EC would allow them to rush in to help Israel).

    India is a big power, maybe with a cuddly Iran, and of course fights China on the regular over Tibet. SEAsia was basically taken over by the Chinese.

    Africa is where the Casablanca group, not the Monrovia group, won, though its probably dealing with the secessionist and greediness of the latter in numerous uprisings but they're winnin'. Maybe they get nuked by a South Africa Rogue State+Rhodesia that held out.

    South America is harder to pin down, Pan-LatinAmericanism was more of a fringe thing even in the 19th century. Mexico is independent but they're big and had the oil to stay independent, so maybe the rest united in some sort of Pan-Latin Leftist bloc, drawing the nuclear aim of the USA, peeved after losing so many brush wars there.

    And of course the USSR is still there as this Eurasian Socialist-Democratic Socialist giant. Reformed maybe, kept the Warsaw Pact somehow, but eh.
     
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